Do you Feel Lucky Punk - Page 5

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Vickie

? Nervy? I am new but I've seen several nervy/unsure dogs and from the video she didn't seem to show any of those charactersitics. 

I have seen some dogs slow to "out"  because of such high drive and intensity for the sleeve.

I could not tell from the video and do not know the background of the dog, but I have seen leash popping in the blind for both correcting a "dirty" dog and for building intensity.

Molly,
            It is hard to think of another GSD to put up and look
at than Fero. I would ask koos because Koos has had Fero
in his kennel and has some interesting points that where
both good and not so good. Fero's progeny are legendary.

This what Koos say"s...
Alfred Hahn, from the kennel “vom Busecker Schloss, was very clear. He told me: “Koos, if you want to improve the German Shepherd Dog, and I know that is your goal, then consider this for the future. One can improve the anatomy of the German Shepherd in only a few generations. But to improve, temperament, character, and the necessary working abilities take much much longer. Good males will always be around, so focus on the quality of your brood bitches!” In my opinion, the pure truth, spoken by a very experienced breeder and Körmeister.

absolutely - and Koos is known for his very strong females.  I had one of them, and so far after almost 20 years in the sport, working and breeding these dogs, I haven't put my eyes on a female that matches her.  My Xinerobella v Tiekerhook Schh3,IPO3 was a once in a lifetime dog.

molly

For those of you who really don't know or understand dog behavior and training and come here looking for shortcuts to knowledge, let me explain what you see (or don't see) in the video.  The handler is not very good and indiscriminately just yanks away on the dead ring of a fur saver.  This is not building frustration or drive, just jolts against the neck and spine.  If he wanted to build drive for barking, a pinch collar would be a better tool to use with short rapid pops.  If he were looking to build frustration, draw the dog back with just enough force to frustrate and drive back to the blind and then send it back.  Too much pulling or "jerking" will cause the dog to turn around, especially a female.  His "jerks" are more to keep a comfortable distance between dog and helper, I'm betting because she bumps the arm while barking.  she never did settle in because she wasn't allowed to, again a pinch would work better but with this female, she may load too much.  For whatever reason (my sound driver is down so I have no audio), noise is being made against the blind to keep her interest.  Let's see the dog bark in the blind for an extended period without stimulation and work on the man without all of the violent activity before we anoint her as the BSP winner.  Re-attacks on the field were prey and not "attacks" and some gathering on the long and a bit of a shorty grip.  Yes folks, it's short.  There are some confidence issues with the outs, even with the handler close on a tight leash.  To me the chewy behavior is a bit of insecurity and could be a problem down the road.  To me, I see a dog that may be good for training and demos but will not hold together for the discipline of 3 phases of control.  Fine if that's what you're looking for, but there are reasons why the dogs of today can hold up to the "fine tuning" training that we do and still put up big scores.

Now I know the Shepherd folk will get all huffy and chest poundy because I am insulting the great Koos Hassing and his groupies but breeding and training/trialing are 2 different things.  Let Koos get out there and do with his dogs what John Jabina does with his and then I'll tell you he really understands the potential as well as the limits of his breeding.  By watching the video of Koos "building food drive", I am somewhat intrigued by his defining food possession versus food drive.  A dog being an a'hole over his food doesn't make a good dog in my opinion, just an a'hole.  I have seen plenty of animals that are/were possessive over food but yet had no real useful drive for learning.

 

Dude,
"For those of you who really don't know or understand dog behavior and training"

What's wrong with Koos? I would love have Koos,Ronny Van Den Berghe,
and Bart Bellon in the same room to talk about dogs. These are dog smiths.

I have a question.....Last night I am watching a movie and my dog
Nina does her imitation of Robin Willams doing a dog scooting
across the lawn wiping his butt. On my $450 comforter that I have on my
bed..... Is this the french in her or is it pin worms or what? I need
an expert to tell me.

De Niro and Williams

It's not a question of "What's wrong with Koos", it's a question of "Do you (not you in particular) understand food drive vs food possessiveness?"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il2_SHS9B7Y