Scutzhund, PSA, Monido - Page 4

Alpha, you are the best! I just want to teach you that the word you want to use is "regardless".

chaz .. even people must learn when a correction is appropriate and be accepting / or they never better themselves .. thanks

PS .. i find the topics and the personalities on the PDB interesting .. whenever some people cannot debate , make a rebutle for thier point of view .. many lead to character assasinations ! i just shared how easy it is to teach a pup to get it's nose to the ground .. another way ? just simply ask your dog  " what will motivate the dog to get the nose to the ground and/ or follow a track/footprints ?? for those interested : [ i am sure the know it alls here aren't intgerested]  : at dinner time before you feed the dog .. take a soaking , dripping , bloody marrow bone and pair it with your footprints [ very close in stepping] .. SO ?? do you think your hungry dog would follow that ?? Again teaching a dog that instinctively uses it's nose , especially to survie , is  not all that hard .. -- please explain why you think or why in your teaching a dog .. tracking is so ,  so monumentally hard ?? ....... human nature .. when one has nothing to contribute .. all that is left is to try to cut someone down - instead of finding a way , problem solve , if you think something is hard to make it easy .. i have shared a few very very minor teaching scenarios .. i await your explanations as to why tracking is hard .. BTW .. scores make no difference .. either the dog can perform or it can't .. same concept that a scholastic test in reality is no different than what a youngster has done for homework no more no less .. doesn't matter if oit is a WUSV .. a dog taught to track correctly .. will track .

You are a goof.  You still have not answered one of the questions I posed to you.  Do you always skirt the question at hand and avoid direct answers?  HAS ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU GAUGED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF YOUR TRACKING?  Meaning, has anyone scored your track?  You seem to throw all dogs into one lump by saying "either the dog can perform or it can't".  Dogs perform and are motivated by different things and at different levels.  Being as you have never competed (by your own admission) your opinion is basically moot.  Building enough consistency to track anywhere, anytime is not easy.  Ask Wallace Payne who devotes hour after hour sometimes several times a day tracking his dogs how "easy" it is.  If memory serves me correct, he received a score of 18 (+/-) at one SchHIII National Championship and then the next year (or possibly 2 years later) was the North American FH Champion while putting up a 99 OFF LEAD.  Why don't you tell him how easy tracking is.  Why don't you tell the ten's of thousands of LEO how easy it is to track after they come back to the barn following a 2 hour empty track.  Are you saying that what they were tracking just disappeared or didn't exist?  That every dog should find every thing every time?  Winds shift, humidity changes, rain falls, scents change over different terrain and vegetation.  All dogs have different strengths and weaknesses as do humans.  Not every athlete has the potential to be Michael Jordon or Peyton Manning or Albert Pujols.  Many factors come into play when one walks the center line and only the people who have never done it think it's easy.  At last year's FMBB IPO World Championship, Edgar Scherkl put up a 100 pt. protection routine in the preliminary round and in the final on Sunday, his dog didn't out and he was disqualified.  Was that also very easy?  Maybe you should take your methods, tested only by you on your grounds and on your terms, and go on the road and teach the world about Alpha Dog World and how to train dogsport.  At least in your mind, you ALWAYS succeed.  

 Quote by Chaz:  "Dude, tracking is easy. That's why nobody spends the time on it and they fail that phase more than the other two."

Truer words were never spoken.   Yet, in this neck of the woods, the consensus is that the folks who do ring sports are just those who too lazy to get up and do any tracking.

Dude .. i answered  all your questions - read all my posts . !! and i did not write that  i never competed . i wrote that in regards to that  long hair - was no reason to trial with him .. i have had 11, 12,  13 GSDs simultaneously for years  . the majority are/have been worked. i also wrote i have done Sch ..but to the present do ring.. buiding enough to track any where anytime is not easy ? .. Again .. foolishness .. i start puppies at 9 , 10 weeks opld .. every where , anytime all conditions tracking !! E.g my Ando Altenberger progeny i started 10 weeks old : footsteps & turns  , through water , grass , gravel , water puddles , mud , sand , CONCRETE  & asphalt,  cross contaiminated tracks [animals /people] , 20mph winds, up hill /down hill , ALL befrore he hit 13 weeks old ! shortly thereafter hard pouring rain , drizzle rain , snow , ice by the time he was 6 months.. it is not hard .. WHY .. because in a teaching phase as i wrote [ mostly for new trackers] I always , always make sure before i start i set the dog up and aid the dog in accomplishing the task successfully .. THAT IS NOT HARD !! Points / trials i am not overly impressed .. so .. one can trial ..- dogs and people can/ do  make mistakes .. so you don't get a 95 point .. so a ddog steps off a track for a moment , loses a point .. good grief .. the best of thje best dog / handler at some point will make a mistake .... personally  i do not rate dogs or people - their  capabilities by a one time performance .. and yes - i agree people and dogs do have different talents - THAT is what i look for , what is the talent  /relationship  - not foolish points. BTW .. THAT is why the SV judge looked at my long hair Sch 1 track .. he was one of several people in my life that tested MY  qualifications to TEACH canines !! in any event -- i accept your oulook if you think trachinkg for hard ..ok .. again i shared some simple things about tracking for some folks .. we all are free to establish our own schema and constructs and from that we  become what we think ... so good fortune and succes in your training .- AP                                     mystere... many people do other sports  eg, ring / mondio not because they are lazy in reagrds to tracking but :  1. the sports , if you tried them , are a lot more fun , 2. less about the handler and MORE about the dog , the dog must think and it is challenged when performing .. Sch is ok , but i have found that many people that have switched from Sch to another sport .. just say.... "wow" !! in my state Sch is defunct .. ALL other european sports have just taken over .. Sch is no where to be found - even if you wanted to do Sch .. .. that is how much the other sports have progressed - not about people being lazy to track in this area .. beleive me .. it's ideal to track in the farms around here !!