Top PRODUCING Stud in Europe? - Page 4

runninonempty  , did you look at some oofspring of one of the better producers of  the latest years Ahron granit rose

Falk wolfen is good , I personally expect great offspring out of the dogs of the meerblick litter  Q with five littermates being topdogs in sport and airportsecurity  all good on hips and elbows

I guess four will be in competitions later on

http://www.working-dog.eu/kinder-details/33885/Zender-vom-Lusondai

Here the best progeny of Zender for me:

Optikas Garcia
Joy di casa nosella
Jango di casa nosella
Markant von peroh
Jocca von der mohnwiese
Hurican von den woelfen
Mecki vom Klinkenhagen
Oscar del lupo nero
Marla von peroh
Finja vom Erdbeerlord
Ecco van het Groot Wezenland
Fenderr van het Basjesuis

Tiger - have you seen these dogs from Zender? are they all titled dogs - competitive?

that is teh kind of info I would like to see/hear

They are all titled dogs, with IPO 3 and excellent results in trial. I saw some of them in video, and some of them personally.

Hey Steve1, yes i am saying that you are not.i only say things that i know and belive.so no worries. have a nice one. and good luck .

sorry guys i answered to the wrong post.

Runningonempty:
Maybe, you overlooked my previous post, so I will reiterate:
J-Litter vom Talka Marda
Uno and Etzel vom Stadtfeld and sons and grandsons.
Looking at the current SV stud news from June 2009 for breeding reports in May, Campino vom großen Schönberg had two studs (might not be much, but it certainly depends who was going to him - Salztalhöhe and T. Lapp), Bomber vom Wolfsheim (SchH2) hat 3 breedings, Branko Salztalblick 2 (both from his breeder), Eric vd Schnapstanne (new stud at Döllenwiese Kennel) 2, Ero vom Fuchsgraben 2, Eliot von Prevent 2, Endy von Karthago 2, Jucan von Peroh 2, Iwan vom Poppitz 2, Javir 4, Jollo vom Salztalblick 4, Olek vd Maineiche 4, Phalko vom Weinnbergblick 4, Quasimodo vom Rosseleck 2, Unkas vom Riedschlurgi 3, Uno vom Stadtfeld 2, Worry vom Salztalblick 2.
Both of Thomas Lapp's males, Falk and Falko only had one breeding in the month of May.
There is another upcoming Uno-son in Germany, who has been discussed - Eyko vom Mörfelder Land! One dog missing in this month's list, but usually gets a few breedings is Amon vom Patriot. Karn vom Fegelhof is popular but only had one breeding. His best son (at least for me) is Hutch von der Kalten Hardt (one breeding in May) who is Germany's Vice Universal Sieger. Thomas Sauer's dog Amigo vd Holzinger Au was missing too. Sometimes, if these males have been used a lot during the past months, the owner has to cut back to avoid fines. If you want to know the amount of breedings for previous months, let me know and I check the SID archives.

Held
I do not understand your last post, First you say Belgium is the best, then you say you are not, i guess you mean Belgium  But we all think differently and although i do not say Belgium is the best if you take the size of the country  compared to its competitors then Yes, they would be, Only 300 miles by 250 miles in size a really tiny country  Belgium would only fit in a small corner of  one State in the USA,
Germany is over 4 times its size and Holland three times as big, But to show a little of what they have done in the past and it is a credit to these Dogs and Handlers, and i say this although i am an Englishman just living in the country
I go back the last 20 years in the WUSV, the outright winners of the Dog and Handler in first place

1988  Belgium 1st
1991  Belgium 1st
1992  Belgium 1st
1993  Belgium 1st
1999  Belgium 1st
2004  Belgium 1st
2005  Belgium 1st
7  times in the last 20 years a Belgian and his Dog have been centre stage on the Podium in the WUSV plus three times 1st Team Champions, that is not bad for such a small country, And i think they have an excellent team going to Germany this year
As for  my  coming oming Pup being titled, Yes, i do not see any problems in that but we will see in two years time unless i am pushing up the daisies by then
You too have a nice one, and good luck with the Tom's son, by the way what is his full kennel name i would like to look up his Dam
Steve

Steve,

I hold the opinion that the Belgians are absolutly some of the best breeders in the world.

I say the Belgians and the Dutch are the best breeders. Belgians and French are the best trainers. Hands down