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by macrowe1 on 07 February 2013 - 02:02
Since when does OFA have a rating of normal for hips? I was under the impression it was excellent, good, fair, mild, moderate, severe. I could be wrong, just wondering there. To the OP, I dont think they'll score well. The first looks the best of the bunch, maybe a fair-mild? but the other two look bad. Nan, that's interesting about the left side, I notice a lot of the HD are the left sides of dogs.
by GSD Lineage on 07 February 2013 - 02:02
the ratings of ( excellent/good/fair) are collectively called "Normal" and published results from say the 1970s and the past in general denoted "Normal"
Germany has Zeurkannt
Quoted snip: from bob-O
Snip from Lonewulf:
From Another thread: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=47759-what--does-zuerkannt-mean
Germany has Zeurkannt
Quoted snip: from bob-O
| EKvon Earnhardt, the dog with a hip rating of zuerkannt passed the hip x-ray evaluation, but you never know whether it passed as "a"1, "a"2, or "a"3 in those days. |
| Interesting about the lack of differentation concerning the indicated quality of the hips, but it is similar to the days when the O.F.A. gave but a passing grade of Normal unless the dog failed. |
From Another thread: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=47759-what--does-zuerkannt-mean
by hexe on 07 February 2013 - 03:02
Oh, for heaven's sake--OFA doesn't have a rating of 'normal', but it's not exactly inaccurate to say that a dog which has received any of the passing ratings was found to have 'normal' hips. If anyone really has a question as to what Zambi's OFA rating is, it's simple enough to look her up in the OFA database--and for that matter, anyone could have determined if OFA was giving ratings of 'normal' now by checking their website, too. Do a little of your own legwork, people.
by Hutchins on 07 February 2013 - 04:02
Hexe wrote: "Oh, for heaven's sake--OFA doesn't have a rating of 'normal', but it's not exactly inaccurate to say that a dog which has received any of the passing ratings was found to have 'normal' hips."
Sorry Hexe I have to disagree with you on that statement. Would it be fair to say a dog has a "normal" rating if it actually got a "fair" rating. Seems to me if it got a fair rating there must be something obvious that was not normal, but not bad enough to say HD. It is not a normal hip and therefore should not be considered normal nor called normal. In my opinion, an excellent or good would would be considered Normal, but I would never consider a fair rating normal. Something not quite right had to be the reason it was graded as fair. JMO!!
I bet anyone that bought a dog and was told it's hips were normal but actually ended up being a Fair would not be happy to find that out.
Sorry Hexe I have to disagree with you on that statement. Would it be fair to say a dog has a "normal" rating if it actually got a "fair" rating. Seems to me if it got a fair rating there must be something obvious that was not normal, but not bad enough to say HD. It is not a normal hip and therefore should not be considered normal nor called normal. In my opinion, an excellent or good would would be considered Normal, but I would never consider a fair rating normal. Something not quite right had to be the reason it was graded as fair. JMO!!
I bet anyone that bought a dog and was told it's hips were normal but actually ended up being a Fair would not be happy to find that out.
by BlackthornGSD on 07 February 2013 - 04:02
To the original poster, the middle dog might be OK. If she's 7 months old right now, I think it'd be worthwhile to re-xray her closer to 12 months. The 3rd dog's films--no, not good news there. The first dog, I'm not optimistic, but I'd probably re-xray her too around 12 months.
One thing I notice is that none of these girls seem to have much muscle mass in their thighs--in a healthy dog with healthy hips, I like to see much more muscling. This may indicate that these girls have had a limited amount of exercise, and an increase in healthy, moderate exercise may help those hips (especially on the #2 dog) improve.
Christine
One thing I notice is that none of these girls seem to have much muscle mass in their thighs--in a healthy dog with healthy hips, I like to see much more muscling. This may indicate that these girls have had a limited amount of exercise, and an increase in healthy, moderate exercise may help those hips (especially on the #2 dog) improve.
Christine
by BlackthornGSD on 07 February 2013 - 04:02
To angelfire2269 - how old is your dog and what breed? I don't see signs of hip degeneration and the sockets are OK.
by Brittany on 07 February 2013 - 04:02
Yikes I made a typo and everyone is having a heart attack. Calm down people :)
Heres a link to where you guys can go to see the results from Zambi's hip xrays at OFA http://www.offa.org/results.html?all=Zambi+von+haus+Barkus The hip results came back as good, not normal. Normal is for elbows. I'm sorry for the confusion and inconvience.
Heres a link to where you guys can go to see the results from Zambi's hip xrays at OFA http://www.offa.org/results.html?all=Zambi+von+haus+Barkus The hip results came back as good, not normal. Normal is for elbows. I'm sorry for the confusion and inconvience.
by GSD Lineage on 07 February 2013 - 04:02
To jbbr ( Original Poster) I would listen to Blackthorn. The middle dog looks the best of the 3 and the 3rd looks bad especially on one side.
by CrashKerry on 07 February 2013 - 10:02
Why does everyone seem to think fair is not a good rating? Fair still means no dyslpasia. Fair may not be as near perfect as excellent, but they're still sound hips.
by Hutchins on 08 February 2013 - 00:02
Its not that a fair rating is considered BAD, but in MY opinion,I certainly would not considered it normal. To ME, Good would be considered normal and Excellent would be considered PERFECT. A good rating is exactly that, GOOD!! Fair to ME is not normal. Maybe I am setting my standards too high for what I would want to breed, but that is just what I set my standards too. Considering the direction the breed's hips are going in, I think the higher the standard, the better for the breed. Again, this is just MY opinion. I am not saying what others think is wrong.
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