Best E collar recommendations? - Page 3

Thanks sueinnc for your input, very informative.
You said

My dog is bananas for his ball. We use the ball in ob. Every once in a while my dog gets a little kookoo & doesn't want to out the ball, he wants to possess the ball. So I platz him, I step back, say out, if he doesn't, he gets tapped because he understands the command, now he learns he "must every time". This is a much cleaner kinder method than fighting with a dog in drive for the ball.

He is not the only dog who wants to possess the toy, thats a part of the game. If you understand dog`s rules of the game you will find out how you can turn the rules into yours without using punitive methods. 

Here is a video link where you can see how I approach my dogs when teaching the "out".
There is a "Javir Talka Marda" daughter, granddaughters of "Karn Fegelhof" and "Asko Luther" some Pasko Peko Haus" Line ,
a Karthago dog, a Nyrvana one and a couple of malis.

www.youtube.com/watch

All the best
Ulf

That is a very good video thanks for putting it up, I love this method.  I learned it from Dean Calderon  many, many years ago, but I am no where near at your level.............yet!   I much prefer this game, especially with older pups/young dogs,  rather than "fetch" with one ball/hose/toy,  because it's so easy & there is no conflict,  and it's really fun too.

 Dean also taught me there are many ways to the top of the mountain and all methods do not work the same on all dogs.   

Ulf     I can assure I know what I'm talking about its 1/100 of a second we call that a nanosecond in the vernacular  of  the e-collar don't ask me why ask Dogtra maybe its slang  ,   The collar is not capable of physically injuring the dog trust me  they studiied that  I have found its better not to discuss it when people have an emotional response, it just turns into another one of those  non productive situations that help no one

I'm probably gonna get alot of laughs for this, but I bought a INNOTEK  Contain & Train about a year ago and the remote part or the "train" part is woderful.  I know you can buy just the collar and remote.  It has 9 different "strengths"(if you will) and a tone button.  It also has a boost button that makes the collar jump up 2 levels higher than what you have it set on.  It has been put through the ringer with my GSD she has beat the heck out of it and it still works like a charm.   

Ulf - I understand a lot of people don't use, like, or recommend E-collars. In fact, I am the last person to ever suggest one. However, sometimes I think it is a useful tool with the right dog. I didn't really start this thread to discuss if I should use one or not, I'm just trying to find out which collars work best for the money. Thank you for your sincere interest in this issue, though. I really do appreciate it.

The reason I didn't like my Dogtra, was that it was very unreliable.  It would not always generate the electrical impulse, especially when it was raining hard out.  The intensity level never seemed to be very consistent either.  Sometimes the intensity would be there and then it would waver off and not be as much.  I know this because I test it out on myself at low levels.  The Dogtra just didn't hold up, and wore out quickly.  I've owned two Tri-tronics collars.  My first one was an LR100 which used the 5 intensity plugs.  I paid about $550 for it at the time.  It was big and bulky, but it was the best in its day.  It "always" came through for me.  Now I have A Sport Basic, G3, which I paid about $240 for.  This has been a great collar.  I run two collars off the same remote (you can run up to three).  This is nice because if you have a couple of dogs to work, you don't need to fool around with switching the collar from one dog to the next.  The remote is small and easy to work with.  Tri-tronics are just long lasting, reliable pieces of equipment.
Dennis

Hi Lief,
of course will the manufactorers of e-collars promote their products as the best since sliced bread, so do the dry food manufactorers and McDonalds

You cant blame them really, its a business. Very similar to politicians who are just puppets of the people with the real power/money and many people believe them. I do not.

All the best
Ulf