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by Mystere on 18 July 2013 - 21:07
Yes, this is sour grapes. Guess he considers the Qualifier to be bad PR! 
The other countries with two organizations have done just fine with a Selection/Qualifier for more years than USCA and WDA. Apparently, Dan Yee does not like the way things have gone. What is he afraid of--that the Team will be entirely USCA members next year? What the HELL does he care how much it costs USCA members to make the Team?
This is simply more divisiveness-period.
Maybe if the man actually trialed a couple of times in his life, he'd realize that no one really wants the limitation of just one "good" or "bad" day.
The other countries with two organizations have done just fine with a Selection/Qualifier for more years than USCA and WDA. Apparently, Dan Yee does not like the way things have gone. What is he afraid of--that the Team will be entirely USCA members next year? What the HELL does he care how much it costs USCA members to make the Team? This is simply more divisiveness-period.
Maybe if the man actually trialed a couple of times in his life, he'd realize that no one really wants the limitation of just one "good" or "bad" day.
by Bob McKown on 19 July 2013 - 09:07
I,m sure as the WDA shrinks they will see less and less members on the world team from USA. After going to the SV over the USA,s trial rules one would think they would be happier living off the hard work of USCA like a parasite existing on it,s host. So now to further there parasitic existence they want to be assured of 3 spots on the team so now they want out of the SV,s rules! Nice to pick and choose what you want.
by Mystere on 19 July 2013 - 10:07
Is there a business relationship between Yee and Henke? If so, it speaks to why this underhanded parasitic behavior continues with expectation of reward. Just asking. . .
by SitasMom on 19 July 2013 - 12:07
please answer
What was the percentage of qualifying teams that could not afford to participate in the qualification trial?
How many teams qualified and how many competed (not counting injuries)?
What was the percentage of qualifying teams that could not afford to participate in the qualification trial?
How many teams qualified and how many competed (not counting injuries)?
by SitasMom on 19 July 2013 - 12:07
How many "championship" trials can UScA members compete it? UScA, AWF, DVG...etc...
by Mystere on 19 July 2013 - 15:07
Kim ,
If you really want answers regarding other peoples' finances, you need to ASK THOSE COMPETITORS, if any, who claim they could not afford it to participate in the qualifying trial.
Schutzhund/IPO is not a sport or hobby for mimimum-wage earners or welfare recipients. It is an expensive hobby: the dogs costs more than the pets one could buy from a newspaper ad. The food the dogs are fed cost more than what is fed to the average Purina-fed pet. Training costs in terms of time, gas burned for trips to and from tracking fields and training fields. The vehicles used in the sport cost more--I know of only one person who is not driving a truck or SUV to accommodate the dogs and their crates. Trial entries cost. Hotel accommodations costs. Meals away from home costs. Bottom-line: a person who is actually, actively seeking to make the Team knows at the outset what kind of expenses are involved, and plans accordingly.
It has been my experience that, with very, very few exceptions, EVERYONE in this sport has money for exactly whatever they WANT to have money for. We all know and/or have seen the individuals who claim that they cannot afford to pay their club dues, who turn right around and drop $6,000 on an imported titled dog the same week. Or, those who claim that they cannot help with a trial the club is hosting, because they can't afford the gas, yet they show up at training the following week with a brand, spanking-new, gas-guzzling vehicle and a new dog-trailer. So, the individual, if any, who claimed inability to afford the qualifier, had the finances; they simply had something else to which they preferred to direct their funds.
What percentage of those who could "not afford" to participate in the Qualifier purchased new dogs and/or vehicles the following week?
USCA members can compete in any number of championships: USCA Nationals: WDC; AWDF; DVG Nationals; WDSA Nationals; UDC Nationals; USRC Nationals; AWMA Nationals, etc. What's your point?
17 teams qualified for the Qualifier-- 10 from USCA and 7 from WDA.
If you really want answers regarding other peoples' finances, you need to ASK THOSE COMPETITORS, if any, who claim they could not afford it to participate in the qualifying trial.
Schutzhund/IPO is not a sport or hobby for mimimum-wage earners or welfare recipients. It is an expensive hobby: the dogs costs more than the pets one could buy from a newspaper ad. The food the dogs are fed cost more than what is fed to the average Purina-fed pet. Training costs in terms of time, gas burned for trips to and from tracking fields and training fields. The vehicles used in the sport cost more--I know of only one person who is not driving a truck or SUV to accommodate the dogs and their crates. Trial entries cost. Hotel accommodations costs. Meals away from home costs. Bottom-line: a person who is actually, actively seeking to make the Team knows at the outset what kind of expenses are involved, and plans accordingly.
It has been my experience that, with very, very few exceptions, EVERYONE in this sport has money for exactly whatever they WANT to have money for. We all know and/or have seen the individuals who claim that they cannot afford to pay their club dues, who turn right around and drop $6,000 on an imported titled dog the same week. Or, those who claim that they cannot help with a trial the club is hosting, because they can't afford the gas, yet they show up at training the following week with a brand, spanking-new, gas-guzzling vehicle and a new dog-trailer. So, the individual, if any, who claimed inability to afford the qualifier, had the finances; they simply had something else to which they preferred to direct their funds.
What percentage of those who could "not afford" to participate in the Qualifier purchased new dogs and/or vehicles the following week?
USCA members can compete in any number of championships: USCA Nationals: WDC; AWDF; DVG Nationals; WDSA Nationals; UDC Nationals; USRC Nationals; AWMA Nationals, etc. What's your point?
17 teams qualified for the Qualifier-- 10 from USCA and 7 from WDA.
by Dobermannman on 20 July 2013 - 11:07
Keep the qualification trial but forget about a judge from UScA and another from GSDCA. Have one neutral judge from DVG or FCI.
OR
You could just forget about all the time and energy you waste on fighting each other and merge? :-)
Thomas Barriano
OR
You could just forget about all the time and energy you waste on fighting each other and merge? :-)
Thomas Barriano
by VKGSDs on 20 July 2013 - 14:07
If teams with legitimately stellar dogs honestly cannot afford the trials, there are easy ways around that. I am on a dog team (different sport) and we found a local sponsor who is paying for our team clothing. I could also get a sponsor for my own dog to cover his entry fees and such. It's really not that hard, you just have to be a bit creative. JQP things competitive dog sports are pretty cool and it's not hard to get support, even from local businesses that are not pet related.
by ShelleyR on 20 July 2013 - 16:07
How things have changed! Funny, as poor as I am, if I feel my dog can make the team, you can bet your patootie I will raise the funds to get us to the qualifier, even if it means eating top Ramen for months in favor of spending grocery money for gas for the old car to get to training, staging dog and car washes at the local feed store to raise travel and entry money. If I can do that, anyone dedicated to competing in the sport can do it too! There's no shame in sharing 3-4 to a hotel room clear across the country, eating frozen entrees from the microwave in that room, when you step out on the major event trial field with your dog.by Bob McKown on 22 July 2013 - 09:07
Yee see,s the writing on the wall, he is just trying to maneuver to keep his organization relevant. I,m sure that the GSDCA is less then thrilled that on there big date to handle the W.U.S.V. competition there own working dog organization could not muster enough entries to even evenly compete for the spots let alone represent them. A full USCA world team will spell the death of WDA. Money is the least issue as Shelley stated neither is the judging issue brought up earlier. Let the WDA fold and they can join UScA or the DVG or RSV2000 Is there any positive to the 2 becoming 1? WDA would have to offer something UScA needs and I for 1 don,t see the benefit.
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