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by SitasMom on 21 July 2011 - 03:07
i ve heard that there is a worm that is becoming resistant to the regular wormers.......
using a very heavy dose of flagyl for 15 - 20 days kills the bacteria in the worm's gut and the worm will starve to death......any other way, the worm keeps reinfecting your dog.
maybe its just a rumor, but i tried it and all of my dogs are much, much happier and no more nasty piles in the yard....just lots of logs......LOL
by hexe on 21 July 2011 - 03:07
"using a very heavy dose of flagyl for 15 - 20 days kills the bacteria in the worm's gut and the worm will starve to death......any other way, the worm keeps reinfecting your dog."
Also kills the bacteria in the dog's gut, which means unrelenting diarrhea. Don't think I'd be giving a high dose of metronidazole for 15-20 days unless it was under vet supervision, especially since metronidazole can cause neurological problems.
Also kills the bacteria in the dog's gut, which means unrelenting diarrhea. Don't think I'd be giving a high dose of metronidazole for 15-20 days unless it was under vet supervision, especially since metronidazole can cause neurological problems.
by SitasMom on 21 July 2011 - 04:07
its just what I've heard.
I prefer to use safe guard goat wormer it takes care of the gardia and the worms, including tape worms........
and of course - of you read the other thread -
1 tsp dannon activia morning and night during and for at least a week after treatment and then at weekly........

by windwalker18 on 21 July 2011 - 04:07
Don't forget that there's irritation to the bowel with Giardia/coccidia issues, even after you kill the lil buggers the gut has to heal to begin absorbing nutrients properly and producing normal poop. I had Girardia issues many years back, and found that feeding a diet with brown rice, chicken/turkey and veggies helped firm it up. Also be sure to retest for Giardia as well as other parasites a week or so after finishing a protocol to be sure that there's not something other than the giardia. Often eggs from hook/whip etc are suppressed when the gut is in crisis.
by hexe on 21 July 2011 - 05:07
windwalker, you bring up a very important point. After any sustained GI issue, the lining of the intestinal tract is damaged, as the villi which absorb the nutrients and fluid to distribute through the bloodstream have become raw and in many instances have actually sloughed off (hence the foul odor that often accompanies the diarrhea from these GI illnesses). It takes time for this tissue to heal and regenerate, and it is actually possible to *create* a food allergy where one hadn't existed before if you go right back to feeding the dog's normal food--with impairment to the filtration of the digested food, larger protein molecules can enter the bloodstream and sensitize the dog to those items.
Much better to keep the dog on a simple, bland diet of one simple carb and one simple protein (rice, oatmeal, barley, etc.; cottage cheese, cooked eggs, boiled white chicken meat, boiled & strained lean beef or other red meat) that are highly digestable, and to continue that regimen for four weeks after the illness seems to have abated. At the end of those four weeks, you can begin to slowly reintroduce the dog's normal feed over the next four weeks until you're back to feeding the full ration again.
Much better to keep the dog on a simple, bland diet of one simple carb and one simple protein (rice, oatmeal, barley, etc.; cottage cheese, cooked eggs, boiled white chicken meat, boiled & strained lean beef or other red meat) that are highly digestable, and to continue that regimen for four weeks after the illness seems to have abated. At the end of those four weeks, you can begin to slowly reintroduce the dog's normal feed over the next four weeks until you're back to feeding the full ration again.

by myret on 21 July 2011 - 17:07
we use panacur in Denmark for worms and it is the best that we have in denmark we have milbemax to but tests show that panacur works better for all worms
we have the dangerous french heart work here and the lungworm for these kind of worms the way to go is 30 days of worming then almost everytime for these kind of dangerous worms are killed
we have the dangerous french heart work here and the lungworm for these kind of worms the way to go is 30 days of worming then almost everytime for these kind of dangerous worms are killed

by Smiley on 23 July 2011 - 13:07
My pup came back positive for that too. They also found worms with the fecal.
Just a thought....Could it be the food?
So, she got put on a one dose Heartguard plus tablet (ivermectin/pyrantel).
9 days of panacur (it's a powder that I sprinkled on food). But, we only made 7 days because she stopped eating (which turned out to possibly have been because of the food but vet said to stop everything but food as she needed to eat).
I go back exactly 2 weeks after getting the heartguard plus and he is giving her a round of nemex (spelling might be wrong). I follow that with one more heartguard plus. That's it. Then just her monthly regular heartguard pill (no ivermectin/pyrantel).
I do think the giardia is gone as her poops are solid and brown....no more pudding.
Plus, I switched her food from raw to a kibble that is like feeding raw (Natures Variety Instinct). She has been inhaling the food and her poops are good. Could your situation be food based causing the pudding poop? Did you confirm the presence of giardia with another fecal or are you just going by the poops?
So, I am wondering if it could be a food thing like mine contributing to the pudding poops as my pup had same thing and is coincided with giardia and worms.
So, sorry. I know how frustrating it is. Hang in there and good luck!!
Just a thought....Could it be the food?
So, she got put on a one dose Heartguard plus tablet (ivermectin/pyrantel).
9 days of panacur (it's a powder that I sprinkled on food). But, we only made 7 days because she stopped eating (which turned out to possibly have been because of the food but vet said to stop everything but food as she needed to eat).
I go back exactly 2 weeks after getting the heartguard plus and he is giving her a round of nemex (spelling might be wrong). I follow that with one more heartguard plus. That's it. Then just her monthly regular heartguard pill (no ivermectin/pyrantel).
I do think the giardia is gone as her poops are solid and brown....no more pudding.
Plus, I switched her food from raw to a kibble that is like feeding raw (Natures Variety Instinct). She has been inhaling the food and her poops are good. Could your situation be food based causing the pudding poop? Did you confirm the presence of giardia with another fecal or are you just going by the poops?
So, I am wondering if it could be a food thing like mine contributing to the pudding poops as my pup had same thing and is coincided with giardia and worms.
So, sorry. I know how frustrating it is. Hang in there and good luck!!
by danbee on 27 July 2011 - 02:07
I'd treat for coccidia too. If you have Giardia & worms, then coccidia is also pretty likely. But with all of these treatments, you've got to be adding a probiotic to it because you're killing off all of the good things. I like Fastrack probiotics, but you can even use human ones from a vitamin store (don't get something from Walmart or similar stores, it's junk).
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