chronic runs - Page 2

hi ger, yes, I do know how to treat these issues. But I have been doing this for 4 decades.

I keep neomycin www.jefferslivestock.com/neomycin-oral-solution/camid/LIV/cp/16369/cn/3102/ on hand for sudden onsets of diarrhea (until I can get them to the vet).

best,
Rik

rik thanks ' i take this on  board and i'll get back to you a.s.a.p to let u know what the prog is  cheers ger

So you have a puppy with chronic diarrhea, and, instead of doing the responsible thing by taking him to a Veterinarian for a proper diagnosis, you are going to self-diagnose or listen to armchair-Veterinarians, and run your own treatment? 

What if it's something more serious...not just your standard parasite?  What if it's pancreas issues, etc.? 

A trip to the vet is the correct answer.

Vet first, and remember a simple change like water can start it , thats eazy to fix as long as it has been to the vet. Puppy is to little and can die fast. So head the advise and go now to the vet. 

Glad you went to the vet and that your pup is doing better, you did the right thing!

I just came off a bout of this problem with my newly acquired pup. 

No change in diet vs what the breeder was giving.  TOW.  The pup drank a lot and had the shits for days.  I took a stool sample, regardless if it is runny, and had the vet do a fecal test.  Came back positive for giaridia.  5 days on panacur (?) spelling.  Done.  One other way to do this I was told by a holistic guy was to give crushed up garlic in their feed.  parasites do not like the stuff. I don't know about that and the amounts.  He said it worked for his dogs. 

But, if I were you, take the dog to the vet. 


Giving anitbiotics blindly....a big no no!   

Geraldine, you said

"........took him first thing to the vets and turns out that he has inflammation of his intestine as in enteritis and he gave him an injection to settle things down and an ID food for the next 5 days to get him back in the rhythm things and may be a food with less protein. he already looks better and back to his normal self thankfully, so thanks to all you guys"
....enteritis caused by what?....settle things down.....ID food.....UH-OH!!!!

I sincerely hope I am wrong.  This treatment sounds a bit like treating the secondary bacterial infections and hoping the cause will go away by itself and if not, ID food for life.  It is not a pretty picture....symptom relief..

Unfortunately, I have had way too much experience with Giardia.  I had a dog that had chronic Giardia for two years.  Multiple vets failed to diagnose it.  That was 1997-1999.  And, my other dog got what she had occasionally.  Back then, it was the most under-diagnosed ailment in dogs.  With the old style fecal float, there were very many false negatives.  My good friend's dog lived like that for 4 1/2 years of ID food and Flagyll,  Finally, she went to a new vet and got him to agree to prescribe a course of treatment of Panacur C.  It worked and it has been three years.  She is healthy and lives on commercially prepared raw food.

Today is better, but, there are still human doctors who think ulcers are caused by stress!!!  They apparently don't know that it is caused by Heliobacter Pylori that actually can survive stomach acid and survive.  There is a specific antibiotic and a treatment protocol to kill it off and set the patient free from a lifetime of symptom control.  That happened to my mother.

My puppy Pharaoh had Giardia as a baby.  I took stool samples (from five different poops)  to my good veterinarian and she diagnosed him as Giardia positive.  He was given two courses of 5 days Panacur C.  I had to repeat the treatment in about six months.  He eats raw meat, 1/2 a whole chicken per day.  He is three years old and in glowing health.  He is now resistant to exposure.

The elderly dog next door is a skinny greyhound who lives on ID food.  She has very dry skin.  My neighbor has been taking her to the vet her whole life.  Relatives call her the gold plated dog. I keep my mouth shut.  I am new in the neighborhood and she's a nurse and trusts her vet.  At this stage, there is almost no point anyway.  Pharaoh loves this dog and they tongue kiss through the fence.  He had three incidences of loose stool when I first moved in last summer.  I fed him chicken backs and legs to flush it out.  He is now immune. 

At the risk of sounding like Chicken Little, I wish you the best of luck.

Michele