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by SchHBabe on 27 May 2010 - 19:05
Kathyo,
I believe a very important criteria for any serious workingline kennel is to find a breeder who actually trains and titles their own dogs.
A lot of breeders, regardless of their "lines", just snap up titled dogs and breed them based on the pedigree or the scorebook without actually knowing anything about the true heart of the dog. This is NOT the path to success for the conscientious breeder.
Just because a dog arrives off the plane from Germany with pretty scores in the book does not mean the dog even knows the SchH routine. Furthermore, not all "points" dogs are good breeding dogs, even if the titles were legitimately earned.
If you are looking for an "older" puppy - BUYER BEWARE! The first question that ought to be running through your mind when you see the "top sport prospect" up for sale is "What is wrong with that dog?" Why is the dog for sale? Regardless if you're buying from across the pond or here in the US.
Every once in a while a buyer can get lucky and a good young dog might be returned to the breeder through no fault of its own. Perhaps more likely the breeder was stuck with a pup that nobody else wanted to buy and so they "held the dog back to see how he develops". Wish I had a buck for every time I saw THAT in an ad.
Whenever you buy an older pup you not only buy the dog but all the baggage that comes with it - whether it's a poor foundation or good training - chances are you'll never know until the money has changed hands and you've got to live with the consequences.
I'm a big fan of starting with a baby puppy. At least all the mistakes in training are MINE and I have a better idea of how to deal with them. I hate it when visitors show up to club with an adult dog with "issues" - so much more work to undo what was done.
A good sign of a qualtiy WL breeder... they will NOT have a pup for everyone. Any breeder who immediately just happens to have the perfect dog available for each and every prospective buyer... yeah right!
Off the soap box now...
Yvette
I believe a very important criteria for any serious workingline kennel is to find a breeder who actually trains and titles their own dogs.
A lot of breeders, regardless of their "lines", just snap up titled dogs and breed them based on the pedigree or the scorebook without actually knowing anything about the true heart of the dog. This is NOT the path to success for the conscientious breeder.
Just because a dog arrives off the plane from Germany with pretty scores in the book does not mean the dog even knows the SchH routine. Furthermore, not all "points" dogs are good breeding dogs, even if the titles were legitimately earned.
If you are looking for an "older" puppy - BUYER BEWARE! The first question that ought to be running through your mind when you see the "top sport prospect" up for sale is "What is wrong with that dog?" Why is the dog for sale? Regardless if you're buying from across the pond or here in the US.
Every once in a while a buyer can get lucky and a good young dog might be returned to the breeder through no fault of its own. Perhaps more likely the breeder was stuck with a pup that nobody else wanted to buy and so they "held the dog back to see how he develops". Wish I had a buck for every time I saw THAT in an ad.
Whenever you buy an older pup you not only buy the dog but all the baggage that comes with it - whether it's a poor foundation or good training - chances are you'll never know until the money has changed hands and you've got to live with the consequences.
I'm a big fan of starting with a baby puppy. At least all the mistakes in training are MINE and I have a better idea of how to deal with them. I hate it when visitors show up to club with an adult dog with "issues" - so much more work to undo what was done.
A good sign of a qualtiy WL breeder... they will NOT have a pup for everyone. Any breeder who immediately just happens to have the perfect dog available for each and every prospective buyer... yeah right!
Off the soap box now...
Yvette
by GSDPACK on 27 May 2010 - 19:05
Kathyo, thanks.. we have 2 trials here at that time si No need to travel.. too bad I like trialing dogs other places it really shows me what they are made out of.
by ziegenfarm on 28 May 2010 - 02:05
www.siegerhof.com/
if i were in your location, i would probably check these folks out.
just a suggestion.
pjp
if i were in your location, i would probably check these folks out.
just a suggestion.
pjp
by darylehret on 28 May 2010 - 03:05
In case you'd want to know, that litter happens to be a mix of show and workinglines.
by jade on 28 May 2010 - 19:05
alpinek9.com
by animules on 28 May 2010 - 20:05
Being in the Pacific NW area...... This is the working line kennel I would highly recommend. www.vongrunheideshepherds.com/index.html
by adlerbach on 28 May 2010 - 22:05
Echenluft German Shepherds.
www.workinggermanshepherd.com
This breeder is an active trainer and competitor and has many years of experience. My female from her was bought as a puppy and is everything she said she would be. Have dealt with a fancy name mentioned in one of the responses and the female from that kennel was very sweet but very disappointing as a dog for schutzhund and THREE times the price. Soon I will be going for the 1 with my not quite two year old girl (in weeks) and looking forward to her little half brother who is not quite 6 weeks. Eichenluft said this female was wonderful for the sport and I can tell you she was right. Barb
www.workinggermanshepherd.com
This breeder is an active trainer and competitor and has many years of experience. My female from her was bought as a puppy and is everything she said she would be. Have dealt with a fancy name mentioned in one of the responses and the female from that kennel was very sweet but very disappointing as a dog for schutzhund and THREE times the price. Soon I will be going for the 1 with my not quite two year old girl (in weeks) and looking forward to her little half brother who is not quite 6 weeks. Eichenluft said this female was wonderful for the sport and I can tell you she was right. Barb
by judron55 on 28 May 2010 - 23:05
My boy is from Von Grunheide and I highly recommend Suzanne!
Ajay Singh is as good as they come!
Ajay Singh is as good as they come!
by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 29 May 2010 - 00:05
Yes, Ajay Singh. If he came to this thread and offered something, you should listen to him.
He has a female that was a part of the most successsful working GSD litter of the past decade, a world famous and legendary J litter of Talka Marda kennel.
Not a one shitter
He has a female that was a part of the most successsful working GSD litter of the past decade, a world famous and legendary J litter of Talka Marda kennel.
Not a one shitter
by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 29 May 2010 - 00:05
Not s single shitter in the whole litter, or even just good puppy, or even just "very promising" pup, every single one of the turned out to be a rock star. That seldom happens with any litter, that all puppies are Hall of Fame material, Javir, JIm Beam, Jilnana, John, Jenna, Jarek, Justin.
All of them kick ass.
All of them kick ass.
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