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by Oskar1 on 17 November 2009 - 09:11
I would not want to wait any longer on the determination whether it is pano or not. Dogs do have a high pain tolerance. Have the ellbows x-rayed. A experienced Vet can do that w/o anaesthesia (spelling?), but this will be your only option to make sure.
Then, when you have a result, decide on how to procede further. Some Vets suggest, if it is ED in a mild form, to put the dog in a crate for up to 6 weeks, only letting him out to go potty, a horror thought for me. It seems to work sometimes, but it is not 100% certain.
Good luck !
Ulli

by shepherdpal on 17 November 2009 - 13:11
He srill wants to tun and play with my sons dog and seem to take it ins "stride"
I am confused because some say to lower the protein and others say to feed all meat.
by happyday on 17 November 2009 - 14:11
My vote is pano as well - my boy is 9 months old and 80+ pounds (and he isn't over weight) My boy has battled with it since he was 3 months old.
Low protein - and anti-inflammatory medication is the way to go. the medication helps my boy alot....He has got spring in his step when he gets it.
Sheperdpal - As far as Raw - it is better for them then kibble. My dogs like it more than kibble... It is just a little harder to do. More time consuming for me to prepare than opening a bag....lol - I put more into feeding my dogs than I do my own children.....
8 months old

by Liebe on 17 November 2009 - 14:11
Its easier with the kibble because its info is provided for you, but I'm a great believer in what suits each dog. I had a beautiful girl but she didnt do well on raw, but did extremely well on the right kibble, but then she had loads of other issues to deal with.
Not everyone find raw suits their lifestyle as well, as you need the space to freeze/store the meat etc. we do a lot of raw but because we like going camping ours are equally suited to kibble.
Find what suits your dog and stick with it.

by Turk on 17 November 2009 - 14:11
could be pano, soft tissue sprain, etc. Pano normally presents itself on more than one side. Only an xray can tell. Good luck and he'll be fine.

by Keith Grossman on 17 November 2009 - 14:11

by Oskar1 on 17 November 2009 - 15:11
(on a side note, this is not ment to sound rude, sorry second language)
I agree, regarding the food........but (there is always a but) our K9's, have the same amount of rips, same amount of teeth, very same digestive system as their ancester, the wolf. So, what excatly makes us think it is better to feed our dogs kibble with grains in it, that contains a meat source that would make every one of us puke, if we would ever see it in front of us, that contains perservatives, a wolf probably would pi** onto it !! But then again, to each their own, and believe me, I wont be the one to lecture anyone on kibble. Nor will I ever condem anyone who does feed kibble.
Ulli

by Keith Grossman on 17 November 2009 - 15:11
Like you, I do not begrudge those who think differently...everyone has to do what he/she thinks is best for his/her dogs. Personally, I feed Canidae which is made from all natural human food grade ingredients without all of the grains and preservatives and have had very good success with it.

by Oskar1 on 17 November 2009 - 15:11
One thing I know for sure, since feeding raw, I have less Vet expenses, no ,and I mean not at all, problems that the dogs dont want to eat, it also seems that I have less problems with ticks (I mean these little bloodsuckers, these needles creeps) than friends of mine feeding kibble. But anyhow, didnt want to highjack this thread.
Ulli
by happyday on 17 November 2009 - 16:11
When he is suffering with his pano - which isn't very often now - I don't work him - he takes it easy - lite exercise. Pano does go away with time.
I have two GSD and both are being trained in Schutzhund. The term spring in the step is figurative - and not intended to get a reaction that would insinuate that I work my dogs when they aren't feeling well -cause I have doped them up and masked the pain. I know the limitations of my pup and pano. No hurtful awakening? What could that imply? We are talking Pano....
Happyday
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