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by Doberdoodle on 05 June 2010 - 04:06
That IS puppy food. Any all-lifestages food must meet the AAFCO requirements for feeding puppies. What is Canidae's protien % and calcium & phosphorus?
by Keith Grossman on 05 June 2010 - 04:06
Protein 24%; calcium 1.2%; phosphorous 0.90%. This has nothing to do with food; like hip dysplasia, it is an entirely genetic problem that, since it is self limiting, I don't worry much about. All of my males have had it; none of my females from identical lines have, if memory serves.
by LAVK-9 on 05 June 2010 - 04:06
A tid bit of info about Pano...www.peteducation.com/article.cfm
by YogieBear on 05 June 2010 - 12:06
My male suffered horribly with it. He is 16 months old now and when the weather changes - he gets it back ever so lightly....each time a little less - fortunately they grow out of it, according to my vet...
I couldn't give aspirin when he first came down with it - he was teething - that made for a bloody mess with aspirin thinning the blood...not to mention it didn't relieve any discomfort...
I know alot of people have their reservations about Remadyl but it was a welcome relief for my boy.
Pano does tend to slow down training a bit - but when he had a spell - we worked on the things that you don't have to use alot of motion. Focus, etc....
My female didn't have pano - my vet says it is more common in the males.
Good luck and give it time. It will pass.
YogieBear
I couldn't give aspirin when he first came down with it - he was teething - that made for a bloody mess with aspirin thinning the blood...not to mention it didn't relieve any discomfort...
I know alot of people have their reservations about Remadyl but it was a welcome relief for my boy.
Pano does tend to slow down training a bit - but when he had a spell - we worked on the things that you don't have to use alot of motion. Focus, etc....
My female didn't have pano - my vet says it is more common in the males.
Good luck and give it time. It will pass.
YogieBear
by BlacqueKat on 05 June 2010 - 13:06
It can sometimes run in lines, sorry to hear your pup is one of the unfortunate ones to get it.
by Red Sable on 05 June 2010 - 16:06
My guy has it too. :(
by duke1965 on 05 June 2010 - 17:06
keith . pano has everything to do with food , ask people that feed raw howmuch pano they experienced
with raw i mean really raw without artificcial vitamins etc added , I mean the BARF concept
with raw i mean really raw without artificcial vitamins etc added , I mean the BARF concept
by Sock Puppet on 05 June 2010 - 17:06
Red,
What are you feeding? How much protein?
What are you feeding? How much protein?
by Prager on 05 June 2010 - 17:06
Pano is genetically predisposed and environmentally induced.
The biggest culprit is so called "high quality balanced " diet.
Feed meat! Make sure the dog is never totally full. Feed about 90% to 60% of what he would like to eat. Based on age. (Pups more adults less food).
Meat, (lightly cooked to kill parasites but not to kill live enzymes) , pasta, pinch of see salt, 2 table spoons of raw vegetables or fruit (Apple, carrot, pineapple blended with parsley).
Cook a load in turkey cooker and freeze it .
Use any meat, innards, flat bones and cartilage from chicken.
Chicken feet are the best source of gucosomine, chondroitine, MSM, Hyluronic acid needed for heathy development of bones and joints.
I also boil soup bones and feed the liquid and give them the bones to play with and lick it and scrape it with the teeth. (Minerals).
Sunshine! Generates D vitamin and helps to develop healthy bones.
Not load exercises but mild exercises through day.
Keep the dog skinny!!!! See at least 2 ribs.
Even on pups.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
The biggest culprit is so called "high quality balanced " diet.
Feed meat! Make sure the dog is never totally full. Feed about 90% to 60% of what he would like to eat. Based on age. (Pups more adults less food).
Meat, (lightly cooked to kill parasites but not to kill live enzymes) , pasta, pinch of see salt, 2 table spoons of raw vegetables or fruit (Apple, carrot, pineapple blended with parsley).
Cook a load in turkey cooker and freeze it .
Use any meat, innards, flat bones and cartilage from chicken.
Chicken feet are the best source of gucosomine, chondroitine, MSM, Hyluronic acid needed for heathy development of bones and joints.
I also boil soup bones and feed the liquid and give them the bones to play with and lick it and scrape it with the teeth. (Minerals).
Sunshine! Generates D vitamin and helps to develop healthy bones.
Not load exercises but mild exercises through day.
Keep the dog skinny!!!! See at least 2 ribs.
Even on pups.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by Red Sable on 05 June 2010 - 17:06
I've been playing the food game S.P.
A couple of months ago I switched to Orijen Adult, and both of my dogs broke out in the itchy's with scabs on their croups, so I went to Orijen All life stages which is fish, ( I think they both run near 40% protein) and not really any sign of relief,,,, so I am now feeding Acana Lamb and apple, which is 27% me thinks.
A couple of months ago I switched to Orijen Adult, and both of my dogs broke out in the itchy's with scabs on their croups, so I went to Orijen All life stages which is fish, ( I think they both run near 40% protein) and not really any sign of relief,,,, so I am now feeding Acana Lamb and apple, which is 27% me thinks.
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