So I have a Question - Page 2

if she challenage you , then in her eyes she is the boss, not you.
a dog that see you as the boss will never try to dominate you.
the females are good for this.
you need full control.

ok well i am confused.... ha
i have heard from other people that a dominant will challenge from time to time.... this is from a person i know who's JOB is working with GSD's....
I am consistent with her and I am in charge... she does what i tell her i want to do and if she doesnt then she doesnt get 'treats, pets, to go play" etc  just like the meeting other dogs thing i described earlier... i make her sit quietly b4 she gets to go play...
so this thing with quill do i stop it ???? and if yes then suggestions ??? Mocha the saint was sooooo much easier to teach.....

again thanks everyone...
Lorie

Lorie,
Yes, you may be a little confused.:)

I am consistent with her and I am in charge... she does what i tell her i want to do and if she doesnt then she doesnt get 'treats, pets, to go play" etc just like the meeting other dogs thing i described earlier... i make her sit quietly b4 she gets to go play...

If you tell her what you want her to do and if she doesn't then she doesn't get treats....... Wrong, If you tell her to do something that she understands and she doesn't do it, that's called disobedience.  She gets corrected immediately, and when she's correct she gets rewarded.  That is not training.  Your dog has learned that she's in charge and if she wants a treat she'll listen to you.  If something is more interesting or exciting she'll do that. 

If she doesn't do what you tell her to do ( and she understands the command) she is corrected within 2 seconds, no second or third commands.   If you tell her to sit and she doesn't do it, you wait 2 seconds and make her sit.  Then you can reward her.  Once, this happens you will be in charge. 

Dominant dogs will challenge a strong handler once or maybe not even at all.  Dominant dogs will challenge or disregard a weak owner / handler consistently. 

JMO FWIW,

Jim

Jim is right.

i dont use treats with my dogs they are expected to do what i say.
i too have a dominate female , i have have never had any problems, once she knew who the boss is. 
when i yell they jump, they know who the boss is here.
you need to show you really mean it all the time not some times.
what are you feelling when you talk to her?
that can also be the problem.
wrong body language  they will pick up on.

yea she is doing what she feels she needs to do to get her way.

 alot of people dont really know there dogs.

I am not sure what i said that you misunderstood...? ....  if i ask her to do something and i know she knows how to do it and she doesnt then i make her do it...... such as the walking thing and her getting excited or what ever it is when she sees the other dog....  by the way she only does this with dogs she knows.... she does get treats sure but not all the time..

she was 18mths when i got her and was not taught how to do anything other then jump on people and bark... constantly..  i have since fixed the said problems and i am onto other things... i have taught her to walk on leash, sit, down, stay, come, quiet (when she does bark) fetch, roll over, speak, amoung other family pet things....

i dont know.. thanks for you help anyway...

and does this mean that i am a weak handler/owner... because she challenges me sometimes...

I am new to gsd's and was just looking for some advise from more experienced owners...

 

Lorie

Lorie,
if i ask her to do something and i know she knows how to do it and she doesnt then i make her do it..

That's perfect. It is a little different than what you expressed earlier. That's how it should be. 

she was 18mths when i got her and was not taught how to do anything other then jump on people and bark... constantly.. i have since fixed the said problems and i am onto other things... i have taught her to walk on leash, sit, down, stay, come, quiet (when she does bark) fetch, roll over, speak, amoung other family pet things....

This is great, so is the only problem the barking with the other dog "Quill" ?  Sounds like you've done a really nice job with her.  Her challenging you may be a problem, how does she challenge you?  You may not be so much of a weak owner but perhaps too soft or kind as an owner.  If that makes sense?

Jim

yes , you may not be weak, but you have to remember this is a dominate dog.
and she may challenge untill she see you as the boss.
when she see you as the boss she wont do it any more.

you have done a very nice job with her.

just keep what you are doing and dont let her win.

it is really hard to say what she is doing without seeing her,
then i can tell you what her problem is .

do you have any movie of her behavor.

it really does not sound that bad though.

it kind of  sounds like more of an excitement, anzeity thing. to me.