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Trailrider

by Trailrider on 10 July 2007 - 18:07

I heard sometime ago that if a wolf hybrid bites someone it is automatic death sentence for the animal and is tested for rabies via head removal even if it has rabies certification. We have wolf in our area. I have a pic of a female that was dead alongside I-90 about 5 miles from where I live. My hubby works for the DOT and they picked her up for the Game Warden to then pick up. She was HUGE!! The bone was incredible. I took a tape down to measure her. Her legs were already stiff so I had to make adjustment for if her paws were flat and I got 31" at wither. The head to was massive. She was truly a beautiful animal. A friend of a friend has what I understand to be a mostly wolf female. Not sure of the cross. I guess she is good with people but they can't even think of bringing their little mutt around her. Owners said it would be gone quick.


policemom

by policemom on 10 July 2007 - 18:07

You would be surprised to know how many working line dogs have wolf in their ancestry.  In Russia GSD's were commonly bred to wolves in the wild to get harder lines and then their pedigrees were doctored.


by zdog on 10 July 2007 - 18:07

tell us how suprised we'd be and how far back that would be in the pedigree.  wolves don't bring anything to the table that I'd want infused in my working dogs and lots of stuff I don't want.  I read max's book and he talks about how people were trying to infuse wolf blood and why it was such a bad idea and why most breeders at the time didn't want to associate with people doing that either.  Sounds kind of the same today.


policemom

by policemom on 10 July 2007 - 19:07

I agree it's a bad idea.  I'm just saying it WAS done.


sueincc

by sueincc on 10 July 2007 - 19:07

That's interesting about wolves being crossed with GSDs in Russia,  I've never heard that before.  I have heard of the Czech Wolf Dogs mentioned by D.H..  I have always understood a "hard" dog to be one who can handle a correction,  I don't understand what the benefit of adding wolf blood for that purpose would be.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 10 July 2007 - 19:07

My best friend's brother in law did SAR with a full-blooded Italian wolf. They worked the earthquake that hit Italy in the late 1980's, and had several finds to their credit.  He was the only one who could handle it, though. He was exercising it in the park one day, when another dog came running towards it. The wolf went and hid behind some bushes. The other dog followed it.

The wolf tore its throat out before anyone could intervene.

Like everyone is saying, they do NOT make good, reliable pets!


4pack

by 4pack on 10 July 2007 - 19:07

It is not hard at all to acquire a permit for wolves here. I have one filed away somewhere. I took a class at a wolf sanctuary. I have always loved wolves and wanted to get up close and personal. After you see all it takes to live with these animals, I declined to ever adopt one. I'll settle for volunteering at the sanctuary if I ever get a wild hair again. Counties either do or don't allow wolves and wolf hybreds to be owned with a permit. However you can't get vet care for them and you probably will lose your homeowners if they ever found out.

You have to have a covered kennel, bars on your vehicle or truck bed if you transport them that way. Other than that, you can have them, in town even! I didn't need the headache or liability. Wolves belong in the wild, it is quit sad seeing the freedom taken away from the ones in captivity. Though they are lovely to look at, it's just wrong to breed them. It is not a life they live in captivity. It is cruel and sad.

My grandfather had one but he was killed before he was a year old. We never had any issues with him jumping, running away or killing animals. Smart is not the word to describe these animals. Bandit was named for his mask but later turned out to be a little pilferer. He on numorous occasions stole tools from my grands and stashed them in a bush he often laid in. Apparently my grandpa found a vet to see him too. I was crushed when he was put down do to an injury. I was 14 at the time and furious with my grandpa for doing it. Looking back, it was probably for the best. For us and the wolf-dog. I would hate to look back on memories that weren't so nice, had he grown older and wilder causing issues for my grandparents and himself.


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 10 July 2007 - 19:07

Does anyone know where I can find a good Jackal Mix ?

The kids are looking for a new pup.  Any information would be appreciated!

E-mail me at: imanidiot@yahoo.com


policemom

by policemom on 10 July 2007 - 20:07

Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, Breed Showcase The first breed we feature in this showcase is a European wolfdog breed, the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog (Ceskoslovensky Vlcak).

With origins as a cross between select German Shepherd Dogs and Carpathian Timberwolf, the resulting breed was officially recognized by the International Cynological Federation (FCI) in 1982.

 

Apparently this is how the Czech Wolfdog came into existence.


by Sugarbear on 10 July 2007 - 20:07

There is always going to be a stroy here and there about how a hybrid did this or that, and NEVER had any issues (such as the 150lb. gsd/timber cross in New York that not too long ago saved her elderly owners by tunneling them out of their snow covered house).  As stated however, the reality remains,  that the wolf is a WILD animal, and you cannot COUNT on ANYTHING other than the fact that it is WILD.   In the best of situations, it's a gamble and you're playing with fire.  The responsible, reputable hybrid breeders go so far as to tell you up front, that these are never too be trusted around children, and can at any time attack other animals or people without warning. In addition, they also offer that they are not useful for work in the way your typically domestic dog is; they don't bark, and will flee as a first defense.






 


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