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German Shepherd Dog - Male
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.)
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SVALT 990217
Hip: see Mar 03, 2016 comments by PDB Fantom76 - Elbows: Not known
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 02:16 am
I found that same picture in The German Shepherd Dog in Word & Picture by v. Stephanitz, copyright 1925, English Edition on page 127. Underneath is written Fig. 103. White smooth haired shepherd dog from North Germany. In the German Shepherd Dog by Capt. V. Stephanitz 8th Revised and Enlarged Edition,copyright 1950 that picture has been removed from that section of the book and I could not find it anywhere in that book
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by Fantom76 on 04 July 2016 - 02:07
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 08:01 am
It also describes that there were 2 areas where WGS were especially respected and important, and those were in the herding and at the Austro-Hungarian Court, since there they were considered noble.
Invention of inferiority of WGS happened in 1934, under Nazi politics of inventing superior and inferior groups within the same species. Similar to racism, apartheid, etc.... Ask someone who knows the history of Nazi Germany to explain it to you.
In US in 1968, political atmosphere was similar: defenders of racism saw inferior and superior beings everywhere, including amongst the German Shepherds.
In order to feel good about themselves, uneducated, un-skilled, un-cultered, and unwise, continue to stick to the racism, since belonging to self-declared superior group is the only achievement they have in life...
Interestingly, due to the WGS Gene Project, their rarity and highly controlled breeding practices, WGSD are in many respect healthier then non-whites and will continue to develop as such. On the other hand, non-whites are suffering from more deformities, and due to uncontrolled parenting, continue expansion of breed specific illnesses.
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by BeeBee on 11 November 2014 - 08:11
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 05:29 pm
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by shepearshepherds on 29 July 2014 - 17:07
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 02:50 am
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by the Ol'Line Rebel on 27 October 2011 - 02:10
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 02:07 am
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/497921.html
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by MVF on 24 February 2009 - 02:02
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 05:54 pm
"Hektors and Luch's maternal grandfather was a white-coated German herding dog named Greif von Sparwasser, whelped in Friedrich Sparwasser's Frankfort kennel in 1879. George Horowitz, renowned English Judge, German Shepherd (Alsatian) columnist, author and historian documents the background of Hektor Linksrhein (a.k.a. Horand von Grafrath) in his 1923 book, The Alsatian Wolf-Dog. In his book Horowitz documents that the white-coated herding dog named Greif von Sparwasser, born in 1879, was presented at the 1882 and 1887 Hanover Dog Shows."
Nonetheless, the picture in the pdb is a 1906 photo of one of Greif Sparwasser's progeny (a few generations removed) as there is no pic of Greif himself. I suppose this was meant to give us a best guess.
Note that Horand's grandsire Greif was sixteen years his senior! Average breeding age of sire and grandsire was eight (8) years old. If we stuck to an old-sire rule, we'd probably increase the longevity of the breed in a few generations.
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by MVF on 22 February 2009 - 17:02
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:32 pm
I don't recall if it was Greif, but DEFINITELY 1 of the major dogs behind the breed (i.e., ancestor of Horand or so forth) Max mentioned as WHITE. Like it or not. And if the caption itself says the dog pictured may in fact be 1 of Greif's offspring - where does that leave you? THERE WERE WHITE DOGS, as there were long-haired dogs (Russ v d Krone) and many varieties. It's the truth.
And how does having "parents unknown" (that's true of ALL the original dogs; you have to start somewhere), or that the dog wasn't registered, mean the dog was not white?
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by the Ol'Line Rebel on 06 March 2008 - 22:03
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 03:16 am
The caption of the photo reads
This is a photograph of a White German Shepherd from a German newspaper from 1906. The name of this newspaper is unknown, also is the name of the dog. Looking at the date, there is a real possibility that the dog may be Russian or Greiffa, one of Greif's daughters.
Why is it put under Greif ?????
I dislike History being played around with !!!
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by culgoa on 11 February 2008 - 03:02
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:03 am
In fact he is stated in the SV Studbook as parents UNKNOWN
Who is the dog pictured ?????
He was not registered and Max V Stephanitz wrote in his book this fact
and there was No Photo in his book
Some one is trying to claim this animal to booster the White Shepherd Fancy.
Please stick to facts
Greif (Sparwasser)(Abst. unbek.) Picture removed by culgoa on 10 February 2008 - 10:02