If anyone has any questions in regards to my female and her hips, etc. you can e-mail me at dpicicci@yahoo.com. I will be happy to share it with you.

Denise

As a breeder for many years why would you breed a female who by the way is not titled ( Teala) who has an OFA fair knowing Teala's mom Jetta ( which by the way half of
Jetta's littermates did have bad hips) has HD (even though you won't accept it) and her grandmother does produce bad hips(it takes 2)and her great grandfather had NZ hips.
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**Titles are great...and she will get one, but like many breeders, I don't always have a title by the time I'm ready to breed a female. Kudos to you for doing it, but I don't need a title on my dog to tell me what it is. I know my dogs qualities - good and bad - without the window dressing of a title.

Dixi has EXCELLENT qualities, as does Teala. Qualities that, in my view, are worth breeding for. You cannot judge a dog's breed worthiness (male or female) based on one breeding...again, in my opinion.
Denise, you bred one litter. You are about as far away from being in a position to talk about this subject as anybody I know. So little of what you talk about on these lists is gleened from personal experience, be it training or breeding, and so much of it is repeating what others have said. I know. I hear and I read.
By the way, if I recall, the only reason you bred to Fero (you know, the dog that produced with Jetta such a phenomonal litter), was because you couldn't pay the stud fee for your first choice, and your second choice wouldn't breed Jetta. That hardly qualifies as the extensive researh you claim to have done. We told you from the beginning Fero was the dog to breed to, and you ONLY bred to him because we didn't charge you any cash and he was the only dog available.

Further, even if Jetta does show symptoms of being dysplastic now, at one she was A normal and in between her HD now and her A normal at one, she was injured several times. Remember? You had her checked out (xrayed? I don't remember) and were told it was an injury and that she needed 6 weeks crate time...which you didn't do. So its not that I won't ACCEPT that she's dysplastic, I just am not convinced her problems aren't caused by those earlier injuries.

Oh and one more thing...your statement about making perspective buyers aware of the situation insinuates that I would be anything less than honest, which also makes the assumption that I believe I am doing something wrong. So, to set the record straight in front of God and this list (sorry, just a pun, the thing about God), I am ALWAYS honest about my litters and what can be expected and what the risks are. I do this because I believe in what I'm doing, and believe it to be the right thing for US.

I will repeat my earlier comments:

Bad hips don't come from just one parent and it has been my experience over the last 15 (or so) years of breeding that, just like with temperament, a dog can produce lousy with one mate, and wonderfully with others.
And for the record, Jetta daughter was bred to a dog whose bloodlines have been producing excellent hips over many litters and several generations.
I appreciate jettasmom's headsup to everyone, but as so frequently happens on the 'net, you are left with just a one-sided, incomplete view of a situation.

Now, Denise, if you'd like to take this off the list and discuss it, fine, but regardless of what you say or do, I'm finished here.

I apologize to the list members for bringing a personal disagreement to you all.

Sincerely,

Kathy Blank

My response to Jetta's daughter is done only because I bred this female and I would not want a perspective buyer of one her pups not be aware of the truth in regards to Jetta's change in her hip status. Only 1 female from her litter besides Teala was OFA'd, the rest are not. One male may have bad hips but no proof. All the owners of her pups have been notified of Jetta's hip because that is the right thing to do.

As a breeder for many years why would you breed a female who by the way is not titled ( Teala) who has an OFA fair knowing Teala's mom Jetta ( which by the way half of
Jetta's littermates did have bad hips) has HD (even though you won't accept it) and her grandmother does produce bad hips(it takes 2)and her great grandfather had NZ hips.

FYI: Jetta is not "V" rated in conformation but "SG rated.

I do hope all of Teala's pups hips are ok, but bad hips are very close in the mother line.

Denise

I am Kathy Blank, the owner of Jetta's mom, Dixi, and daughter, Teala. I really have no desire to get into a long debate about HD or Jetta or anything, I wanted to say that I think jettasmom's comments are a little unfair. Dixi's first litter DID produce several dogs with bad hips (the stud was noch zugelassen). I never repeated that breeding...for several reasons. However, in her second litter, both boys had good hips. Two of the pups from her last litter have been prelimmed by OFA and look fine. Of the pups in Jetta's litter that were done, I believe only one had anything that looked questionable. The statement that Dixi has "produced bad hips in numerous pups" is at the very least misleading.
Bad hips don't come from just one parent and it has been my experience over the last 15 (or so) years of breeding that, just like with temperament, a dog can produce lousy with one mate, and wonderfully with others.
And for the record, Jetta daughter was bred to a dog whose bloodlines have been producing excellent hips over many litters and several generations.
I appreciate jettasmom's headsup to everyone, but as so frequently happens on the 'net, you are left with just a one-sided, incomplete view of a situation.
Thanks for reading, and I will retire back into lurkdom...

Kathy

Being the owner of this female it is my duty to report that my female has mod HD. This has been confirmed with x-rays and symptoms. She was a normal by the SV at 1 yr old but at 3 1/2 yrs old when she was diagnosed. My female is spayed and doing well. My female was bred at 2 yrs old and one of her progeny has had a litter so be very careful when it comes to the hips. The dam of my dog has produced bad hips in numerous pups.

I have changed her hip status on her pedigree info on this site.