Dear Ahmad what ever you said you cant prove it because the photo of your female told the whole story to the world u deny from this photo not from sieger show or canti? now you know it there's nobody from abroad who come to your house to see the fact how you deny from this photo and you handle her in show you people show your actual face at this sieger show and you are the person who had many complaints from foreign judges and imran you discussed it so many time at public level now how you people put embargo on dogs sale you have not any answer for this if i talked about more decisions then va3 female deserve at first place

Dear Friends, I must apologize to all of you for the behavior of a few people from our country, who seem to be bent on giving the whole lot a bad name. Allow me to assure you the average member of German Shepherd Dog Club of Pakistan ( GSDCP ) is just so keen, and enthusiastic as anyone else, anywhere else, and is steadily working hard towards improving the standard of the breed in our country. At the same time, there are and shall always be, a few disgruntled ones too, who find it more interesting to spread disinformation. For the benefit of you all, our club was not founded in the 70’s, but in 1981. Our president is not paralyzed for the last 15 years, but hale and hearty, and we did not have 35 dogs in our sieger show, but 48 ( which also happens to be more than last year ). And then to come to the latest accusation, the female in question has not whelped till today ( can be inspected at my house, being partly owned by me!!! ), so could not have been 5 weeks pregnant on the show day ( February 12 ). I do not need to waste any more time or space in negating baseless points, and hope the matter will finally be considered closed by all concerned. This forum is for people to learn and enjoy their love for the Shepherd with fellow hobbyists. Best for all to maintain the atmosphere of friendliness and respect, and to allow everyone to enjoy their hobby to the best. Truth somehow happens to be very tough and resilient, and finally manages to survive all attempts on its life!! One may try to hide it with a lot of effort, so it is very well hidden, but resurface it will, or so we all believe. I apologize once again to you all.

I KNOW MOST OF READERS THINK I AM LIAR BUT I CAN PROOF MY WORDS ,PLEASE GO ON CANTI SCHORNFELSEN AND SEE YOURSELF THERE A PHOTO FROM THIS YEAR SIEGER SHOW AND CANTI PLACED AT VA4 A PREGNANT FEMALE CLEARLY SHOWN HER PREGNANCY THERE ARE SO MANY JUDGES WHO COME ON THIS SITE PLEASE GIVE YOUR VIEWS HOW IT CAN POSSIBLE THATS MEAN BIASED JUDGE PROOFED HERSELF. IF I AM RIGHT ON JUDGING SIDE THEN THERE A CHANCE MAY BE I AM RIGHT ON OTHER ISSUES ALSO LIKE ELECTION SCREWED THE MEMBERS AND BAN ON SALE OF DOGS WITH OUT IMRAN HUSAIN PERMISSION. SO LIU CLEAR YOUR POSITION WHO ARE YOU IN THE CLUB YOU ARE MEMBERS FEE COLLECTOR AND DISTRIBUTE THE MEMBERSHIP FORM HOW YOU GET THIS JOB SOME BODY ELECT YOU OR SELECT YOU. SUN IS RISING AND DARKNESS SHOULD GO TO........

Here again politiks is written under a dog's name. What is happening in Pakistan is same as is happening in all parts of the world - Germany, USA, South Africa or even the neighbour India. Martin brothers ruled German scenario and controlled the type even though we know now the hump back spoiled the breed so much with hips getting affected heavily. Then comes Messler with preferring the medium dog and dark colour. Then lo and behold the giants comes in with Orschler and he puts his breeding on top.At least in Pakistan Imran Hussain brought some order by controlling size and type. Mr Peter Riekker by coming year after year to judge saw improvement in type. It is always so everywhere that the losers in shows feel they are being victimised and lose due to judges whims. Mr. Riekker is a world respected SV judge and no one even Imran can influence him to do what he likes not. So in all countries spoilt sports will always be there and the judge is always said to be partial. It is time in the world over to think of the dogs breeding alone and the enjoyment in breeding good animals is more important than show winnings.

Ok guys help me out here - where are you guys looking at these photos?????

The ONLY photos that should be available of these dogs are on Mr. Rieker's web page www.bad-boll.com and here at pedigreedatabase. And the one's on Mr. Rieker's page have NOT been touched up. Ok maybe scanned in wrong due to technical difficulties by the person doing the scanning:):) But not touched up.

The photo of Limbo on Mr. Rieker's page is the one Mr. Rieker took himself and has never been touched up.

I own Lutz the brother and had the pleasure of watching this litter be born and grow up, it is a super litter.

Limbo is now in Norway for breeding and Lutz is in Germany for breeding.

Mandy West

Why is this done,to fool some of us? or to improve the top line and make the dog look so good!!

also touched :-) WHY? WHY? WHY?