Rapi Supra

Pedigree Database

18 Month Rich Red Male German Shepherd for Sale
Male for sale

At Stud Import V Aladin vom Bergmannsland IPO3 OFA
Stud Dog

GS Puppies (2X VA1 Vegas SCHH3 + 2X VA1 Remo SCHH3
Puppies for sale

German Shepherd Dog - maleMale

V24 ,VA1(USA),VA5(I) Rapi Supra 


SCHH3
 Kkl 1 

Sire Born: 14. February 1999

V24 ,VA1(USA),VA5(I) Rapi Supra

DKK  3466/99(SZ2060739)(AKC DN05068101)
Hip: SV: HD a-fast normal (a2) - Elbows: Not known
DNA: AKC DNA #V225129
Tattoo: Add. Reg: DK 03466/99

Breed report

Groß, mittelkräftig, sehr typ- und ausdrucksvoll mit harmonischem Gesamtaufbau. Hoher Widerrist, fester Rücken. Kruppe von sehr guter Lage und Länge, sehr gut gewinkelte Vor- und Hinterhand, sehr schöne Ober- und Unterlinie, normale Brust, korrekte Front. Bei kraftvollem Nachschub und freiem Vortritt werden bei guter Rückenübertragung raumschaffende Gänge gezeigt. TSB ausgeprägt; läßt ab.

Linebreeding


     

Pedigree

SchH3

VA8 Neptun von Bad-Boll SchH3 male

1996
SZ 1959513
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
VA8 Neptun von Bad-Boll

Groß, mittelkräftig, sehr typvoll, sehr gutes Gepräge. Sehr gutes Verhältnis. Bei guter Lage sollte die Kruppe etwas länger sein, ausgeglichene Brustverhältnisse. Sehr gute Gesamtwinkel und korrekte Front. Geradegehend, kraftvolle Gänge aus festem Rücken. Sicheres Wesen, TSB ausgeprägt; läßt ab.

SCHH3

V2 Yassko von der Roten Matter SCHH3 male

1993
SZ 1869422
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
V2 Yassko von der Roten Matter

SCHH3, FH

VA1 Jeck vom Noricum SCHH3, FH male

1987
SZ 1705812
HD-SV: HD a-noch zugelassen (a3)
Sire
VA1 Jeck vom Noricum

SCHH1, HGH

V4 Ostra vom Kirschental SCHH1, HGH female

1986
SZ 1677886
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
SchH1

V26 Eibe von Bad-Boll SchH1 female

1993
SZ 1891841
HD-normal
Dam
SCHH3, IPO3, FH1, BG

VA1 Lasso vom Neuen Berg SCHH3, IPO3, FH1, BG male

1991
SZ 1820256 (AKC DL71755501)
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
VA1 Lasso vom Neuen Berg

SchH1

V Cini von Bad-Boll SchH1 female

1990
SZ 1796300
HD-noch zugelassen
Dam
SCHH1 BHP I

V2 (DEN) Rapi Jaguar SCHH1 BHP I female

1995
DKK 1096/96
HD-
Dam
V2 (DEN) Rapi Jaguar

Godt middelstor middelkraftig harmonisk opbygget tæve. Fortrinlig type. Feminint udtryksfuldt hoved. Særdeles god manke og ryg. God længde og leje af krydset. Særdeles godt vinklet for. Fortrinlig vinklet bag. Veludfyldt krop. God længde af underbrystet. Parallel for og bag. Langtrækkende, særdeles kraftfulde bevægelser. Mod og kampdrift udpræget. Slipper. Særlige bemærkninger: En harmonisk opbygget tæve, der skal tilføres en velpigmenteret han med en korrekt overarm.

SCHH3 FH

VA1(PL) V31(BSZS'95) Baik von Domenica SCHH3 FH male

1991
SZ 1821899
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Sire
VA1(PL) V31(BSZS'95) Baik von Domenica

SchH3

V25 Tony von der Wienerau SchH3 male

1989
SZ 1758001
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Sire
V25 Tony von der Wienerau

SchH3

V Anja vom Wildsteiger Land SchH3 female

1987
SZ 1703434
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Dam
BHP1, SCHH2

V Marodahls Mercedes BHP1, SCHH2 female

1987
SZ 1654288
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Dam
SCHH3 FH

V1(N) SG6 (BSZS'85) Harkos von der Kahler Heide SCHH3 FH male

1984
SZ 1617094
HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1)
Sire
SCHH1

V Marodahls Ikina SCHH1 female

1986
S 50891/86
HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2)
Dam

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User comments



naz2010
Comments: 88
Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:09 am
What a beauty !!
SUPER-DAVE
SUPER-DAVE
Comments: 8
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 04:45 pm
A Vibrantly Visual Stallion!
Mykee
Comments: 8
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 08:13 pm
ZVZW...

Sounds like a great working relationship. More power to them!

All I know is this is one hell of a nice dog!

Mike
ZVZW
ZVZW
Comments: 36
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2003 04:08 am
Hi Mike,
As for your answer , Nah Rapi isnt being sold to John at all.John got into the business 3 years ago now.He bought his first dogs from Bill ,and many since then.He has a good business relationship with Bill,as well he keeps some of Bill's dogs there at his location.So he has full access to Rapi as well any other dogs he wants to use for stud.
Mykee
Comments: 8
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 08:13 pm
Well, I wonder if Bill isn't selling Rapi. I just came across kolenda Kennels and they have him listed under their studs.

Anyone know anything about that?

Mike
ZVZW
ZVZW
Comments: 36
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2003 04:08 am
Hi,
Reffering to the Bill ,and Han's comment.
At the time Rapi came here they both did
own him,yes a co-own.After the Madison Show
Rapi was no longer owned by Hans,but by Bill.
So Bill own's full rights to Rapi,Han's came to the Sieger show and showed Rapi with Bill,
Hans and his wife are very nice people.I so enjoyed that show.I myself dont own any of Bill's dogs but do know the man has alot of
Integrity,Honor,and isnt Shady.Being a dog
trainer here in his area I see all kinds of
dogs from his kennel as well others,and in the years I have been doing this only heard of 2 bad cases of anything, but they werent shady,Dysplasia was the culprit.As per Rapi,
super nice dog,I was very impressed with him.
I got to spend alot of quality time petting
him,playing with him,and what a crusher!
JD
Diane
Diane
Comments: 19
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 04:07 pm
I have a 2 year old Supi daughter, Babs von Arminius. There's a picture of her on this site, though she was out of coat at the time of the photo. She has a wonderful temperament and is beautiful.
Cesna
Cesna
Comments: 31
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 01:45 am
The mother of this litter has very balanced drives. She will bite through the helper. Her grips are deep and calm.

This will be a top quality litter for the show with excellent movement, pigment and structure....but...these puppies are also anticipated to be able to do the work very well.
Dog1
Dog1
Comments: 58
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 08:29 pm
What are your expectations from the litter? What do you think the puppies will be able to do? How is the female's working attitude?

Thanks
Cesna
Cesna
Comments: 31
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 01:45 am
This pregnancy is confirmed via ultrasound and our female is getting very large. She is due on August, 13, 2003. This is a 2-3 liebreeding on Neptun v. Bad-Boll, and was recommended by one of the top GSD breeders in the world!
RedSage
Comments: 5
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:05 pm
In response to Cesna, about the upcoming Supra litter - when are they due? Where could I see photos of the dam?
RedSage
Comments: 5
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:05 pm
In response to Lynn's note about her 18 month old Supra daughter - do you have any photos of her posted on a website that I could see? I love the looks of Supra, and have heard wonderful reports of his personality and temperment. I'm considering purchasing one of his puppies, and would love to see some photos of some of his progeny.
Lynn
Comments: 4
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 05:00 am
What's your point?
Kougar
Comments: 87
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 06:50 pm
Apparently the dog contracted a tick borne disease while in the States, and had some temporary difficulties which have been resolved by treatment. Info posted on another list indicates the ban is being/has been lifted.

Brittany
Brittany
Comments: 167
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 06:20 am
Just to let you guys know.... Bill Fleischer brother CO owns Rapa Supra. As far as the site http://www.vomhausmiller.com/siegershow2002.htm tells me that Rapa Supra is Owned by Hans Häussler and William Fleischer. Maybe they changed but He DOESNT just own Rapa Supra ALONE which means he doesnt get all of the credit.
Lynn
Comments: 4
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 05:00 am
I for one am very happy to see young progeny from this spectacular male here in the United States. His progeny group at the Sieger Show in 2002 was excellent and I am pleased to own a super 18 month old female (getting titled in Germany) sired by him (and also expecting a litter in August).

Rapi Supra has the temperament, structure, excellent male secondary sex characteristics, black pigment-rich red color, very dark eyes, tight feet, oval bone, ideal coat, strong ears, perfect ear set, beautiful saber tail(that beats you to death when he greets you) with a very athletic-full reaching ground covering gait that we Americans really need and rarely see.

Furthermore, he is a fun loving, good natured dog; to everyone he meets he forever leaves a lasting super impression. What a great ambassador for the German Shepherd Breed. We are lucky indeed to have him living in the United States and well managed by Fleischerheim to insure that we have a healthy fertile male available for breeding and a selection of top quality puppies.
Kerry
Comments: 53
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 08:20 pm
No one is trashing Mr. Fleischer or Rapi Supra. This has been and will continue to be an intelligent discussion of legitimate questions about an internationally used stud dog.
Schaeferhund
Comments: 143
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:00 am
That is fairly ridiculous. No one is trashing the dog or the owner.
The original question was whether or not anybody KNOWS exactly what the story was. As potential Supra puppy byer I have a full right to know, if there was something wrong with the father!!
Unfortunately putting up a cert of the sperm from December 2002 does not clear up anything.
Fleischerheim Fan
Comments: 2
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 09:24 am
I can't believe that most of you have nothing to do besides trash Rapi Supra and Bill Fleischer. Mr. Fleischer obviously has a great reputation and puts HIS money where is mouth is. How about most of you? I believe there's a lot of jealously and most of you epitomize those people who never do anything and criticize those that get out there and do something!!
Kerry
Comments: 53
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 08:20 pm
So, again, what WAS the problem with his sperm last summer? You can put your response on the Message Board if you like, because the discussion is there, too.
Birdy
Birdy
Comments: 10
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:50 pm
I am the owner of quite a few dogs from Bill Fleischer and I am pretty happy with the dogs from his kennel.

I don't have any offspring of Supi's yet but I feel that the Fleischer's are confident enough to stand Rapi at stud all should be fine with his sperm count too.

He's posted a letter from his vet and he's not hiding anything. He has several "big" litters at his kennel by Supi now and I'm sure more will follow.

We've always had animals (bulls, rams, boars etc.) for breeding, as for years we've had a farm and sperm counts can vary due to many different stresses.

Unless a tragic illness with the animal, all counts did return to near or perfectly normal ranges.


Birdy Sims
Humboldt Shepherds
Comments: 1
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:10 pm
Shouldn't these comments be made on the message board instead of here?

I'm new here so I don't know. I guess now I'm just as guilty of making statements like this under his comments.

I did see some of his puppies on the stud owner's website. He seems to stand him out to stud too.

So far, no one is saying that their bitches did not take...

Elaine
Arrakis
Arrakis
Comments: 6
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:38 pm
May I further add...

It might be a good idea for any interested in the pups available at Fleischers Kennel to be DNA tested before purchasing one of them. Just to make sure they are really from Rapi Supra.

As I believe these pups start at $2,500 and up better safe than sorry, especailly at these prices for a young puppy.
Schaeferhund
Comments: 143
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:00 am
Yes, yes. It's been posted already. But the sperm was from the 18.12.02. He needs a fresher test.
Fleischerheim Fan
Comments: 2
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2003 09:24 am

http://www.fleischerheim.com/RapiSupraFertility.htm
Cesna
Cesna
Comments: 31
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 01:45 am
Yes, there is a breeding ban...in Germany...due to the problems that were faced last summer. However, Supi is clearly fertile at this time. I'm sure that the breeding ban will be lifted as the dog proves himself once again.
Kerry
Comments: 53
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 08:20 pm
OK, Cesna, that's good news. So, what was the problem with the sperm that caused the ban? Are you saying that there is not a breeding ban at this time?
Cesna
Cesna
Comments: 31
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 01:45 am
We just bred one of our bitches to Supi...His sperm count as of a week and a half ago is great! This problems doesn't stem from recent months, but from last summer... By the way... This will be a SUPER breeding...2-3 on Neptun v. Bad-Boll. The litter was recommended by a top judge! :)
Wolf
Wolf
Comments: 59
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:38 pm
>>>Is the semen not from 18.12.02???<<<

That's how it appears, yes.
Martin
Comments: 87
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 06:16 pm
Is the semen not from 18.12.02???
Pjulle
Comments: 15
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2003 01:17 pm
So in the time from 3/6-03 to 20/6-03 Supra has become infertile?? Or what?

Pjulle
Wolf
Wolf
Comments: 59
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:38 pm
http://www.fleischerheim.com/RapiSupraFertility.htm
Arrakis
Arrakis
Comments: 6
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:38 pm
Doesn't Bill Flesicher own him? I noticed that their website lists several litters by him now.

I do recall though that last winter they had at least a half dozen females listed bred to him but they disappeared off the site and I never seen a pup born to him until now.

I've been watching as I wanted to get one of his pups but the females that suppose to have litters by him now aren't the breeding I'm looking for.

I wanted to purchase a pup from several of the females that just vanished from this site and never any pups listed by these females ever.
Double B
Comments: 73
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:41 am
They are his, but his fertality has come later.
Kougar
Comments: 87
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 06:50 pm
Can't his [alleged] pups be DNA tested to prove they are his???
JanisNovak
Comments: 17
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 01:07 am
wow... I was VERY close to sending a female to him last heat cycle. I'm going to be watching the results of this very closely.

JDN
Martin
Comments: 87
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 06:16 pm
Actually it translates rather as "r.s. has been banned indefinitely bacause the fertility coud not be proven"
Martin
Comments: 87
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 06:16 pm
What happened with him? Did the last few bitches not conceive??
VKH
VKH
Comments: 41
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2003 05:04 pm
Went to visit the SV Web Page today (yesterday) and came across the Announcement, thought it to be of interest to others and 'COPY&PASTE' the original German Text, (had to translate it into English though!)
I almost went and got a pup out of Rapi in 2001 but decided to go with Drake v. Kirchenwald instead, whether or not Rapi's shootin' blanks will be determined through testing!
Kerry
Comments: 53
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 08:20 pm
Is he shooting blanks??
VKH
VKH
Comments: 41
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2003 05:04 pm
“Rapi Supra” SZ-Nr. 2060739 banned from breeding until Fertility can be proven!
VKH
VKH
Comments: 41
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2003 05:04 pm
Für den Deutschen Schäferhund “Rapi Supra” SZ-Nr. 2060739 wurde bis auf weiteres wegen nicht nachgewiesener Fertilität eine Decksperre verhängt.



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