Palme vom Wildsteiger Land

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German Shepherd Dog - Female

SCHH2
Kkl 1

Dam born: 06. February 1979

SZ 1478659
Hip: SV: HD a-fast normal (a2) - Elbows: Not known
Tattoo: R-K 1508

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Breed report

Groß, typvoll, kraft- und gehaltvoll, trocken, fest, gestreckt. Hoher Widerrist, gute Linie, sehr gute Länge und Lage der Kruppe, sehr gute Winkelungen der Vor- und Hinterhand, korrekte Front. Korrekte Schrittfolge, weit ausgreifende Gänge mit freiem Vortritt und kraftvollem Nachschub. Wesen sicher, Härte, Mut und Kampftrieb ausgeprägt. WA 83: Sehr gute Verfassung. Sehr gute Allgemeinfestigkeit. Geschwister : Panter/Pax/Pitt/Perle/Petra

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Pedigree

SchH3 V Nick von der Wienerau SchH3 1976 SZ 1386415 HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1) Sire Groß, sehr kraft- und gehaltvoll, rüdenhaft mit sehr gutem Ausdruck. Fest und trocken in allen Teilen. Gut gewinkelte Vor- und korrekt gewinkelte Hinterhand, ausgeprägte Brustbildung, betonter Widerrist, sehr fester Rücken, gute Kruppe. Gehr geringfügig hackeneng, vorne gerade. Weit ausgreifende, sehr kraftvolle Gänge aus sehr festem Rücken mit wirksamem Nachschub. Kampftrieb und Mut ausgeprägt. WA 80: Gute Verfassung. Nacko sb Nanto sb SG +Narro sb SchH3 V +Natz sb SchH3 V +Nino sb SchH3 SG Nissa sb Norge sb	SchH3 V Kuno vom Weidtweg SchH3 1973 SZ 1289025 HD-zuerkannt Sire	SchH3 V Jonny von der Rheinhalle SchH3 1970 SZ 1205749 HD-SV: HD a-noch zugelassen (a3) Sire
		SCHH1 V Ina vom Klämmle SCHH1 1964 SZ 1076103 HD- Dam
	SCHH3 V Flora vom Königsbruch SCHH3 1971 SZ 1264185 HD- Dam	SchH3 V1 Canto von der Wienerau SchH3 1968 SZ 1176588 HD-zuerkannt Sire
		SchH1 V Wilma von der Kisselschlucht SchH1 1970 SZ 1202559 HD-zuerkannt Dam
SchH3/FH VA5 Fina vom Badsee SchH3/FH 1977 SZ 1405181 HD-SV: HD a-normal (a1) Dam Gut mittelgroß, mittelschwer, kompakt, anatomisch sehr gut aufgebaut. Präsentiert sich im Stand ausgezeichnet und zeigt alle Vorzüge. Sehr gute Länge und Lage des Oberarms, sehr gute Lage des Schulterblattes, hoher Widerrist, sehr gute Rückenlinie, sehr gute Länge und Lage der Kruppe. Vorbrust und Brusttiefe stehen im richtigen Verhältnis. Sehr raumgreifende Gänge aus festem Rücken. Wesen sicher, Härte, Mut und Kampftrieb ausgeprägt. WA 81: Gute Verfassung.	SCHH3 V13 Veit vom Haus Köder SCHH3 1974 SZ 1323996 HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2) Sire	SCHH3 SEL CH (US) V Aßlan vom Klämmle SCHH3 1971 SZ 1255561 (AKC WC951652) HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2) Sire
		SchH1 V Gina vom Sehrenberg SchH1 1970 SZ 1222664 HD-zuerkannt Dam
	SchH2 V Wala von der Sturmwolke SchH2 1973 SZ 1286598 HD- Dam	SCHH3, FH VA1 Gundo vom Klosterbogen SCHH3, FH 1970 SZ 1225419 HD-SV: HD a-fast normal (a2) Sire
		SchH1 V Hera von der Sturmwolke SchH1 1967 SZ 1133553 HD-zuerkannt Dam

User comments

Richard Medlen
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 09:51 pm

Walter Martin told me that Palme was the ugly oversized sister of Perle but, according to him, she would and proved to be the foundation of the breed as we know it today. Unfortunately, her sister Perle, shortly after becoming Siegerin, was sadly sold to one of those Neanderthal throwback countries and was never heard from again in the breed.

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Richard Medlen on 29 June 2014 - 21:06

Kerschberger
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 05:22 am

All one has to do is to go to Perle's pedigree, the VA1 sister and see how few she produced vs. Palme, who was not only passed up in the show circuit but fortunately whomever owned her, knew what he had, presumably the WildSteiger Land kennel, as most of her progeny carries that name
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=116&p=progeny

The famous Q litter of Arminius and then the U litter of vom WildSteiger Land were her great contributions producing the famous super producing males VA Quando von Arminius and VA1 Uran vom Wildsteiger Land.

Moreso when it comes to genetic stamping i looked at the Dam (Xalome) of my male, Cole, and said "geese she looks just like Palme Wildsteiger Land" and put the 2 pics next to each other and the resemblance is uncanny. Now, of course, Palme is in Cole's pedigree, six generations back!

This is not the type the judges seek nowadays for the female VA's, which is their loss & therefor, our loss. Palme is one sleek momma, build for speed and agility which is what a great GS should be.

And to all the working line people no offense, i'm sure there is an equivalent female as known as Palme in your lines, you just can't have Palme ;) she is ours ;)

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Kerschberger on 06 March 2011 - 05:03

vivek
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:27 pm

Mother of Uran and Quando and others is only half the story.
She was an expert herder in the mountains at the age of ten.
How many of our present day Siegers with their long stifle today can even run at that age?
Do not blindly follow what the so called experts advocate, go for the soundest and strongest dogs. Without stamina and strength any GSD is GARBAGE.

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by vivek on 30 April 2010 - 12:04

Salto
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:43 am

On my walk down memory lane, Palme cannot be ignored. She was a great producing female.

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Salto on 30 April 2010 - 11:04

s a ali hyder
Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 06:13 pm

SHE IS THE BASE TO GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG'S & THE MOTHER OF TWO IMPORTANT DOG'S QUANDO & URAN.

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by s a ali hyder on 22 February 2009 - 18:02

Mystere
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:19 am

You really need to clarify your statements. Palme is NOT part of "every" pedigree, just the show line pedigrees. You will not find her in 99.9% of the working line pedigrees.

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Mystere on 17 December 2008 - 00:12

Karon Melillo dVega
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 06:38 pm

This dynamic female
V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land is littermate sister to

1981 World Siegerin VA1 Perle vom Wildsteiger Land

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Karon Melillo dVega on 14 December 2008 - 18:12

Klaus Fischer
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 09:24 pm

no doubt - the GSD-breeding would not be like nowerdays without this top bitch!

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Klaus Fischer on 21 November 2008 - 21:11

gsdkerry
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 03:03 pm

i have a male and femle with great great grand parents ie arko von huhnegrab which you know is a son of va1 quando von arminius(1981)
also line breed from such gsd as v winni vom huhnegrab & VA1 URAN VOM WILDSTEIGER LAND

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by gsdkerry on 21 November 2008 - 15:11

BERTY
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 02:47 pm

HI SUMO
I'M NEW TO GSD MY APOLOGY IF I STEPED ON YOUR TOE
I DID'NT DO MY HOME WORK. I JUST APRECIATED THIS STUNNIG BICTH
SHE IS STILL STUNNING WITH WHAT SHE ACHIEVED IN GSD
ONCE AGAIN SORRY NEXT TIME I'LL THINK BEFORE MAKING THAT KIND OF STATEMENT

REGARDS TO ALL USERS
BERTY

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by BERTY on 12 June 2007 - 14:06

Sumo
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:43 am

Berty,

It seems you think you have made a amazing discovery that "Palme Wildsteigerland is part of every pedigree". Of course she has to be part of almost each and every pedigree as she is mother of VA1 Uran Wildsteigerland and VA1 Quando Arminius. These are the sires who are the foundation of modern GSD breeding. Dogs are still linebred on these dogs.

If you are new to GSD world then yes your observation is perfect and must appreciate you for that.

One more thing Palme was born in 1979 as per this site so it will be miracle if she is still alive if you want to buy her. About finding a grand daughter also you will have to find a daughter of Uran or Quando which again will be miracle because now mostly Uran and Quando are in 5th generation onwards. My suggestion would be to find a bitch who is line bred on Uran or Quando.

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Sumo on 06 June 2007 - 11:06

BERTY
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 02:24 pm

HI USERS

I MUST AGREE WITH TOTTEN , PALME VOM WILDSTEIGER LAND IS

PART OF MOST TO EVERY PEDIGREE I HAVE SEEN SO FAR I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING

IF THIS BITCH WAS STILL ALIVE (IS SHE STILL ALIVE) I WOULD BUY HER WHO EVER THE OWNER OR BREEDER WAS YOU'VE DONE A PERFECT JOB SHE HAS PRODUCED MOST OF THE FAMOUSE VA'S AROUND AND I HOPE SHE WILL LIVE AMONG US FOR AS LONG AS THERE ARE GSD'S AROUND . SHE WAS NOT A VA LIKE HER SISTER PEARL .IF THERE ARE A GRANDDAUGHTER OUT THERE I WOULD NOT HESISTATE TOO BUY HER.

REGARDS

BERTY"SA"

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by BERTY on 05 June 2007 - 14:06

Totten
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:17 pm

THE MOST IMPORTANT BREEDING HUNDINN EVER TO HAVE LIVED!!!!

V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land SCHH2 by Totten on 29 January 2004 - 22:01

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