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by fordsk9 on 30 September 2022 - 19:09

Has anybody done a 2-3 breeding with Bolle Ja Na Ka or a 1-3 breeding and if so how did the litters turn out was there anything that stood out to where as you dont want to do that breeding ever again LOL.

by Mike Delaney on 03 October 2022 - 09:10

Firstly-
there's never a good reason for a 1-3 linebreeding.

Secondly-I stumbled on this link a couple days ago. Its a good read that should be enough to steer you away from that:

https://workinglinegsd.com/jeff-eqidius-genetic-heritage/


Rik

by Rik on 03 October 2022 - 13:10

excellent article and I've not ever read/heard anyone that honest about their own dogs.

by Pirschgang on 03 October 2022 - 14:10

Cool website

by xPyrotechnic on 03 October 2022 - 16:10

great website, it was interesting to see the mindset of a gsd breeder concern of the future generations trying to balance working capabilities and good health of the dogs. The future looks bleak for working dogs at the moment I've seen many reputable breeders complaining about the lack of quality dogs for the breeding programs more so on those who breed for LE.

What could be some more theoretical solutions to offset this problem like the article writer mentions going for lesser known dogs or those that are not consider to be making podium positions?

Rik

by Rik on 03 October 2022 - 18:10

pyro, the breeders with many generations know the health issues they are dealing with. but, there are not that many of them.

fortunately, there are becoming more and more genetic tests, plus the tests already available that knowledgeable folk now insist on. Like HD/ED and spine.

the majority of us in the consumer market will never know the info that the writer of this blog is privy to and it was eye opening for me.

In the end, GSD have been bred for 100+ years and did the job they were needed to do. So, obviously the breeders looked for things other than the modern tests if they had to rely on GSD for a purpose.

today the health tests are available, plus longevity/vigor is a pretty good indicator.

My last female was top rated. Bred her 3 times, got 1 pup. a # other females from the same kennel had close to the same results. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that 99.9% of what one gets is genetic.

jmo,
Rik

by Deacon12 on 05 October 2022 - 10:10

1-3 is very close! I definitely do not recommend it. You are looking for health trouble. Bolle was an aggressive dog so if this replicates you will have trouble.

by GSCat on 05 October 2022 - 19:10

by Deacon12 on 05 October 2022 - 10:10

1-3 is very close! I definitely do not recommend it. You are looking for health trouble. Bolle was an aggressive dog so if this replicates you will have trouble.

 

What do you mean by an "aggressive dog?"

 

German Shepherd Dogs are used for many different purposes.  A German Shepherd Dog bred and intended for military or law enforcement use is very different temperament and drive-wise than a German Shepherd Dog bred and intended for seeing eye Guide Dog purposes.  Working line German Shepherds with proper temperaments and drives in accordance with the Breed Standard are often not suitable as pets for dog owners that have no intention (or idea) of properly training, disciplining, controlling, and working/exercising/menatlly stimulating the dog, especially novice owners.

 

Proper bonding, training, etc. starts on the way home from the breeder.

 


by Pirschgang on 06 October 2022 - 11:10

He means a dog that has a lower threshold to turn it on and sometimes that "on" can come up the leash if you're not careful.

by GSCat on 13 October 2022 - 04:10

This can happen with a well-bred dog, too. Not just one with strong line-breeding or high in-breeding coefficient. Not all such dogs are low threshold. Most people do not appreciate or want an intense, handler-aggressive dog.








 


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