by duke1965 on 02 September 2020 - 13:09
by Rik on 02 September 2020 - 13:09
I'm not going to offer any advice on how to reach your goal on working dogs. I would just be someone else here trying to "fake" it.
I am going to suggest that you do all the research you can on Stefan Schaub and Staatsmacht Kennels and how he did it. a google turns up info everywhere that he gives out freely.
Also, Duke does have some real world advice in LE/Mil dogs.
I will say that the only thing I have learned about breeding is that breed a good dog to a good female and sometimes you get a good offspring. and by good, I apply that to any endeavor you choose.
edit to add: I did not read one post before I replied. that is because I understand there would be much stupid si#t that somehow some qualities of the ancestor means more than the qualities of the sire and dam and the qualities evident in the individual offspring. that old "3-2. sire of the sire is grandsire of the dam" is bullshit.
by stephcivi on 02 September 2020 - 15:09
by Hired Dog on 02 September 2020 - 15:09
If one is looking for a working dog and the dog in front of them is not doing it, same thing. Now days most people find a pet home and sell/give the dog away.
I have "washed" dogs out before that could not do the job I wanted them to. I will tell you this, its not fun raising a puppy for a year or two to find out that its not turning out the way you want it to.
"Garbage" for me would be a dog with nerve issues, fear biters, environmentally unstable, spooks, I do not have the temperament to deal with those.
by stephcivi on 02 September 2020 - 16:09
Garbage" for me would be a dog with nerve issues, fear biters, environmentally unstable, spooks, I do not have the temperament to deal with those
by xPyrotechnic on 02 September 2020 - 16:09
@Rik you misunderstood what i was saying i never said that the parents are less improtant than the ancestors but rtaher if you linebreed on a particular ancestor you can increase your chances of obtaining a desired gene.
Is the 3-2 linebreeding thing useless?
by Rik on 02 September 2020 - 16:09
no breeding is useless if it produces the intended results. also, imo, line breeding can be useful or useless. that is where the dogs and the experience of the breeder comes in. 2 very poor dogs can have the same ancestors as 2 very good dogs.
good luck and hope you reach your goals.
by ValK on 03 September 2020 - 01:09
isn't Staatsmacht mainly specialized in field of sport utilization of dogs?
by hexe on 03 September 2020 - 04:09
Great bloodlines can be built on the father line; great legacies are most often built on the mother line.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
by Hundmutter on 03 September 2020 - 08:09
Hexe, how do you have a 'legacy' without a decent bloodline ? Don't understand what you mean. Okay you could have one outstanding dog that was a complete crapshoot, or well outcrossed, or a total mongrel, that could become a 'legend in its own lifetime' because of something that dog did, or was; but is that really a legacy, doesn't a legacy need to have some element of continuing on into future generations ? (I.e. somethng beyond the one female passing something on to her son / daughter.) Surely in those terms the input of both male and female parents would have to count every time ?