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by apple on 12 December 2019 - 07:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWvFQinAWwIn the Bas video, the decoys are clearly not very skilled and lack presence. How do you think Bas would perform under this type of fight with a person?


by apple on 12 December 2019 - 07:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWvFQinAWwIn the Bas video, the decoys are clearly not very skilled and lack presence. How do you think Bas would perform under this type of fight with a person?


by apple on 12 December 2019 - 08:12

I'd say more often than not, dogs that have the power and commitment to stay in a fight are not dogs like Bas. Some of the toughest dogs do not need to show it (through defensive aggression.)

by apple on 12 December 2019 - 08:12

I'd say more often than not, dogs that have the power and commitment to stay in a fight are not dogs like Bas. Some of the toughest dogs do not need to show it (through defensive aggression.)

by Hired Dog on 12 December 2019 - 08:12

Apple, he would not perform. To be fair though, if there was no suit involved, very, very few humans would actually be able to do this with a dog on them the entire time and once again, regardless of what anyone else believes, if this was a real situation, the handler better be in there as well, helping his dog.
Some people liked Bas, some didnt, I was not impressed by him either, but, I dont expect people to be impressed by some of the dogs I like neither.

by apple on 12 December 2019 - 09:12

Hired Dog, are you saying you have some second hand knowledge of the GSD Bas in the video posted by Valk? Based on the suits it looks like they are in Russia. Do you know anything about the breeding of the dog and what were some of the reasons some others did not like him?

by apple on 12 December 2019 - 09:12

Hired Dog, are you saying you have some second hand knowledge of the GSD Bas in the video posted by Valk? Based on the suits it looks like they are in Russia. Do you know anything about the breeding of the dog and what were some of the reasons some others did not like him?

yogidog

by yogidog on 12 December 2019 - 09:12

Imo you are better off testing a dog with people who don't know do not know how to present them selves to the dog.dog must work out the bite how to read the body language of an unknown untrained person that make it a real as a suitation as it can be. That dog I that video has done that system of bites over and over again that's not real persure. Real persure is a dog grabbing a bite in a awkward way in a position he is not use to haven't to work the person not the person working the dog it is a close to a real bite as you can get novice decoy make everything difficult tfor the dog. There is a lot of people who think they know how to test a dog reading many of the post you can tell the ones who just follow a trend. Always think out side of the box. Only feer your dog is shit will stop you 😉😉

by Hired Dog on 12 December 2019 - 09:12

Apple, I have no idea who the dog is, who bred it or anything else about it. I did hear the language spoken in the video, but, I will will try to next time I get a chance to.
Since I cannot speak for others, you will have to ask them, but, a few stated that this would not be the dog for them.

 

Yogi, how many non dog people do you know that want to do this with a dog? I think its a great way to get someone hurt badly if they dont know how to work a dog. 


by apple on 12 December 2019 - 09:12

I disagree. For one thing, a properly trained dog has been trained to target different areas of the body. A novice decoy will know nothing about challenging the dog so that he doesn't have access to the areas a dog has been taught to target. An untrained decoy will have no presence and will likely be afraid and essentially freeze up presenting no challenge to the dog. Real bites for good dogs that are well trained are generally very easy because the typical person being bit is going to be afraid and feel helpless making it easier for the dog to dominate the person. It is when the dog faces an extremely large or strong person, who might be on certain drugs or mentally ill, or psychopathic and wants to harm the dog, or even try to escape the bite, that the dog is challenged. A novice decoy is essentially a test dummy in a suit. The person in the video I posted decoying the dog has tested thousands of dogs including podium KNPV dogs (which usually aren't the strongest, but are still often much better than average) and has run many of those dogs. A novice could never do that and discover a dog's true weaknesses.





 


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