by charlie319 on 09 February 2019 - 21:02
I'm having the opportunity of importing a black, untitled (ready to be titled this spring, according to the seller) Margman female. She's a litttermate to the female on the "mating outcome" (I won't register a dog that isn't mine or in the pedigree of one of my dogs), and having her bred to Timon vom Kirschental to import and keep one or two pups for my nascent breeding program. While I understand that color may be an issue for some, I believe that temperament will be an asset and conformation should also be well above average and that such a litter is not often seen in the US.
Her pedigree presents some opportunities... having Timo (actually linebred 7-3 on him) and Ursus relatively close and a good number of dogs known for their performance in protection is an asset. Timon also brings a solid pedigree with Esko von Danischen hof, Odin(actually his parents Yak & Riska) , Furbo and Kalli all in the fourth generation and strong performers closer yet.
I have substantial expectations of this litter on the field, ring and eventually as reproductors.
Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
by DuganVomEichenluft on 12 February 2019 - 17:02
by Gustav on 13 February 2019 - 12:02
by jdiogoc on 13 February 2019 - 15:02
Best of luck with your new female! About the prospective litter, I think there are better dogs out there than Timon but it certainly is a great mating anyway!
by BlackthornGSD on 13 February 2019 - 19:02
I don't know the bloodlines or conformation arena well enough otherwise to give you an informed opinion. :)
Best of luck,
by charlie319 on 15 February 2019 - 04:02
It is true that there are better dogs out there than Timon, But given my intent to breed around Dux de Intercanina, Ballack and speciffic dogs (Yukon v der Bastillie, Kevin v Murrtal, Nero v Nobachtal, Vegas, the "O" v Radhouse litter) & lines known for solid temperament (Arlett, Kirschental, Tronje among others), Timon presents a very nice package of conformation and very solid and stable temperament with a potential upside for his progeny as he's already produced a V rated son (Miro Vom Hornpfad, full brother to our Nelli) who was SG33 as a young dog at the BSZS. I'll be the first to say that this litter is not to produce "the dog", but a very significant stepping stone on the way to that point. Plans for the female include dogs with signifficant aggression, solid temperament and at least V conformation rating that are consistent to our objectives.
There are other prospective litters for late this year or early 2020: Clifford von Arlet with Kalkutta von Arlett: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeding.result?father=2765251&mother=2728857 A very Arlett litter that will bring together Nino v Tronje and Gary v Huhnegrab... There is some very nice linebreeding on Xtra v Tronje, Irok, Flipp & Ghandi. Should be a very nice litter.
Ida von Arlett with Fino von Piste Trophe: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeding.result?father=2381286&mother=2719349 Also a very Arlett litter with a great deal of potential. 4-4 on Yukkon, 3-4 on the R vom Fichtenschlag litter (Remo/Rhonda) and 5-5 on Zamp. Ida Carries Latini v d Quartier Latin and Iexpect her pups to bebred to the Timon/Margman Pepper's litter.
Koller vom Bergmannsland & Nelli vom Hornfad: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeding.result?father=2417608&mother=2751256 A somewhat ambitious litter with emphasis on balance and temperament. Koller is a Sabat son out of an Intercanina female. I'm very impressed with him and his breeding. Nelli is a very strong tepmered female out of Timon v Kirschental and Gundi v Hornpfad (Ober v Bad Boll and Rico v Spittafeld granddaughter) with a lot of energy and a very Kirschental temperament.
And one more imported litter: http://www.schaeferhunden.eu/winsis_x/winsisshowdog.php?tp=11&tpi=0&bb=&id=2337225&bbs=&ids=2326221 A bi-colored Landos grandson and a Margman Yes son (he's Peanut's and Pepper's father) out of a very nicely bred working lines female. Willa is a very nice female of Ulmental and Kirschental lines out of the same kennel that bred Peter Send's current competitor, Urex vom Gebembacher Land. I have some interesting plans for this very nice female.
Also on deck is an importation of yet another female out of a mostly Kirschental lines male and a Piste Trophe female that won't be ready until late 2020.
I hope this helps to flesh out a bit of what I look forward to attempting in the following two to three generations.
by lottas on 26 February 2019 - 14:02
Margman Peanut - Margman Yes - Nika von Nord Traum - Vita v. Nord Traum - Vogerland Faraon - Vasgerhoff Vjurtsella - Voger Vassa - Goya
by charlie319 on 26 February 2019 - 23:02
And yet, they are used by a good number of reputable, knowledgeable SV & FCI breeders. A few years ago, I was interested in purchasing a Max von Team Arlett son out of Margman Xara from Arlett kennel... Also, I went to FCI website and Margman is in their breeder database.
by jdiogoc on 27 February 2019 - 00:02
by charlie319 on 27 February 2019 - 01:02
I do have a small Facebook page. Vom Pfeilspitzen Land... In a dog/handler team, the dog is often "the tip of the spear" buying the handler time for a more effective engagement. Also, Kansas, where I live was once the edge of civilization. The land of Billy the Kid and The Wild West... and in honor of the history of Native American presence in what is now the State of Kansas I chose the name. Feel free to come visit.