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by duke1965 on 04 June 2018 - 20:06

An imagewe did vaccicheck on some of our dogs, outcome is amazing

pictured is my old boy Ajax Girmido, will be 14 years old in few weeks, and has not been vaccinated for last 7 plus years,

protection hepatitus 4(max6)

parvo  4

distemper 1

our young female, that is vaccinated annually

hepatitus 4

parvo 1

distemper 2

this is surprizing outcome, we will do this check on more of our dogs now to see where they really are at, protection wise


by Jessejones on 06 June 2018 - 18:06

That is valuable information Duke.
Goes to show that so often our dogs are over-immunized the joy of big Pharma and them earning huge bucks. A titer test is all you may need sometimes and is a lot safer than possible ill health effects of over-immunization. IMHO

by Jessejones on 06 June 2018 - 18:06

PS: Lucky you to have your boy at 14 yo! What do you contribute that too? What do you feed him? Or do you think it is genetic?

by duke1965 on 06 June 2018 - 20:06

thanks jesse, we dont give poison in the dogs blood to prevent flees, we dont vaccinate, and feed raw, rest is genetic I would say, I was expecting few more responses myself as it is alarming that a dog that has not been vaccinated 7 years has better protection than one who is vaccinated annually


by Koots on 06 June 2018 - 20:06

Really interesting results there Duke, thanks for posting.

I do not vaccinate except for rabies as needed to cross the border and to allow my dogs to be boarded at a facility. The last time I vaccinated my old girl was about 8 years ago, and she is now 12. My young dog is taken across the border for training, so we keep the rabies up to date otherwise he has not been vaccinated after his puppy series. Big pharma wants you to over-vaccinate your dogs/cats/kids/self for everything....all the while making oodles of money preying on our fears of 'catching something'. I have not had a flu vaccine for about 10 yrs now, and have also not had the flu for that amount of time. Mind you, I am a self-admitted germophobe of sorts and always have hand sanitizer with me, lol.


by Jessejones on 06 June 2018 - 21:06

Duke - Koots:
Right on.

I don’t vaccinate myself ...or my dogs, after the puppy ones...except for rabies which is law - unfortunately.
No flea stuff either...I use cedarcide (100% cedar oil) to kill any I see. But thankfully we don’t have many fleas where I live and almost no ticks. The stuff is pure poison. Dog collar or spot treatment...doesn’t matter, both are terrible.
Also, I don’t de worm regularly...I have the poop tested every now and then. Never had worms or parasites in my dogs in years! (Knock on wood)
I also feed 90% raw. Have done so for at least 15 years.

by joanro on 06 June 2018 - 21:06

I give puppy shots, then at 12 months, one more 5 way. Then, other than rabies every three years, no vaccinations for any of my dogs...all healthy. Ivermectin every two months to prevent heart worm infestation during spring through fall.

by Jessejones on 06 June 2018 - 21:06

I wish a titer test showing immunity against the rabies virus would also be accepted by law instead of mandatory yearly or three year shots. Not sure though in my area. I have heard that sometimes one can get a waiver in certain areas if dogs health is compromised. But haven't really researched thoroughly enough. For sure one couldn't cross boarders without it... if checked.

by joanro on 06 June 2018 - 22:06

Jessie, to me, the risk for rabies is far too great to not vaccinate. Rabies is 100% deadly, so far, I've never had a dog succumb to the vaccine.

Just this week, a coyote with rabies attacked a little girl on a swing in her back yard. The father fought the coyote off his daughter but was bitten. So imagine how easy it would be for your dog to get bitten by a rabid animal, and you may not even know. The rabies vaccine is the only buffer between wild animals with rabies and you....until you get bitten by the rabid animal yourself. I believe that in Canada, veterinarians are required to be vaccinated for rabies.
In fact, bats carry rabies and are responsible for spreading the disease to indoor pets more than other wild animals.

by Jessejones on 06 June 2018 - 22:06

No doubt Joanro!
Rabies is serious business. I don’t quibble with you there.
I’ve got coyotes and bats right on my property.
On top of all that, should a dog bite someone, and does not have his rabies shots up-to-date, the dog very likely may have to face a long quarantine or possibly even euthanasia. So I do believe in keeping the rabies shot up to date.
But a titer test does show immunity to rabies. Which many dogs have after 2 or so shots. May differ from dog to dog. And then anything else is technically overkill immunization. 
And...if a titer test were more mainstream, perhaps more people would test with it, instead of trying to get around getting the shot for the dog, especially an old dog or sick dog...and then endangering others and the the dog if he is not immune.

PS: unfortunately, there are dogs that are badly effected, neurologically, by the Vaccine, or even succumb to it. It is not as rare as we, who have never had an issue, think. Maybe someone here has a story?

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