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by casualfornow on 28 September 2017 - 02:09

Hello GSD forum,

Older gentleman thinking to get another GSD.

Had dogs from Yoschy von der Döllenwiese via:

Tarzan van Tiekerhook and Hutch vom dunklen Zwinger

in "the day."

I like "harder" dogs... Not into schutzhund or competition.

Kind of the "all business" personality. A little sharp is OK.

Would and older Czech dog be appropriate? (there is one nearby)

Or are there some working lines I should consider?

I know, too broad a question. Perhaps someone might

be able to articulate this better.

Thanks.



Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 September 2017 - 05:09

Go and meet the older Czech male that is available nearby, and see if you 'click' with him. A dog you can meet, see in the flesh, have put through his paces by the current owner is ALWAYS a better prospect than speculating on some pup from a future mating, or buying any dog sight unseen from miles away.
Assuming you know which questions to ask about health history and certification, etc.
If you and the local dog get on, and you are not hanging out to raise a puppy, particularly, then you have your answer - and your next dog. If you don't like him when you meet him, nothing lost but your time. Make sure you know how to say "No", though !

by hexe on 28 September 2017 - 06:09

Agree with Hundmutter--go see the local Czech dog, or you'll always wonder if you passed up an amazing dog that was right in your back yard.

If he's not the dog you're looking for, you'll at least know that for sure and won't have any 'what if' thoughts later.

by casualfornow on 28 September 2017 - 13:09

Thanks Gentleman,

That is a great idea!

I just needed another perspective....

I appreciate it.

Regards,

MB

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 September 2017 - 15:09

Gentlemen ? Nah !

Should add this: many people will have their own perspective on Czech (or any other lines); but they have worked out which dogs suit THEIR needs, & unless you already know a lot about the lines where there are dogs which will definitely suit you and what YOU are looking for, it is still really a guessing game as to whether pup B would be better in what you want to do with it than pup A. If the local dog does not suit, bear that in mind; do your homework on any breeders you choose to consider, make sure you have all pedigree papers, guaranties, health info etc in writing (even if you buy Czech or similar dogs from abroad, where paperwork is often notoriously slow, a good breeder will make sure you have as much as possible to go with the pup and some proper agreement about what is to follow - don't hesitate to ask, if it isn't automatically forthcoming !); and when you find a breeder you think is serious and trustworthy, the best thing you can probably do is tell him/her honestly what you need the dog for and let them pick a suitable pup for you.

Best of luck,

Linda.

by casualfornow on 28 September 2017 - 16:09

Linda,

Thanks for the advice to check all the details. Good info for

when one might get emotional about a certain dog or puppy!

Regards,

MB
Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 September 2017 - 20:09

Yeah, half the people who get stuck with sick or problem dogs/puppies are those who don't know how to say No and walk away. I always remember one thing: if I buy a dog because I can't bear to leave a dog in an environment I don't think is good for it, that just makes space for them to breed the next one to sell to somebody else as gullible emotional. There are other ways to tackle dog breeding done unprofessionally, by reporting, exposing them;  one cannot rescue them all.

by ValK on 28 September 2017 - 21:09

Hundmutter, well said. that's why in the past such pups was cooled down.
now it's too cruel.

by casualfornow on 29 September 2017 - 14:09

Great Point!

I did look at the older local Czech dog. (Four hours away, hahaha)

He has great lines, but was overweight and moved a little slow for me.

Definitely wise to see a dog in person. Not sure I can have one shipped to me

at this point. Smile...


Did learn from the experience.
Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 29 September 2017 - 20:09

If you post the area you are living in, and max range around that you can easily travel to, there may be someone regularly posting here who can suggest breeders for you to investigate. Plenty of working dogs owned, and working lines breeding represented, on this forum. Including based on Czech & old DDR.


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