Max would Cry - Page 1

I don't usually comment much about dogs, but I saw this picture and I could not believe that this is a registered German Shepherd.  I apologise to the owners, I'm sure that they love him.  But I wonder how the breeders feel about the color and the spots on the legs and even the build.. though he is young NOV-02-2015....... He just does not say GSD to me

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2601693-teigan-vom-skyborne

Piebald is a naturally occurring mutation, but this is being bred for as a "rare" GSD color. Pretty sure the breeders are proud of him.

Should've Never been allowed to happen

Here are some other piebald examples.

Shawnicus, like I said, it's a natural mutation, and there were cases of it happening before a certain American breeder got their hands on one. The dogs were just sold without pedigrees because they thought another dog had gotten to the bitch.

That breeder $truck gold.

 

I did a bit more research into this. Apparently, the GSD can have two different kinds of piebald. There's the regular, recessive piebald, like the one shown above, and there's a dominant piebald unique to the GSD, which looks like the dog in the pedigree shown in the original post.

I have seen pictures of other Panda GSD's, but none with spots on the legs like this one. They remind me of another breed of dog, but I can't remember which one. Does one of the sporting dogs have this?

Reliya - please explain to me the difference between regular, recessive piebald and dominant piebald. I am not well versed in Genetics.

Max checked on on this one a long time ago:

"No good dog can be a bad color."

"The coloring of the dog has no significance whatever for service; our shepherd dog accordingly is not bred for color."

-Max von Stephanitz

Like Max, I care about the dog's ability to do his job, whatever it is--about what's in the dog's heart and head, not his fur.

Gotta go. I have a very nice panda GSD visiting here while her people are out of town and she wants to go for a walk. Her people got her cheap and she is exactly what they wanted--excellent companion dog, great watchdog, wonderful with the kids, loves other dogs, and just plain fun. Nice structure and not one health problem during the eight years they've had her.

Not all panda GSDs are like this just like not all GSDs of other colors are like this.

 

And sure it's nuts to breed just for Panda color without regard for anything else. But no more nuts than to breed just for pretty black and tan that wins in the "conformation" ring. The Max also had something to say about this:

 

"but this competition reaches its high-water mark in the show ring, which, just because they demand no real capabilities, ...lead people only too easily astray to lay emphasis entirely on external shape and beauty, instead of on the substance which really matters."

-Max von Stephanitz

This weekend I'll work with a lady who paid $3000 for a "correct color" black and tan, gorgeous GSD pup from titled parents and a famous breeder with a zillion facebook likes. But those with the inside story know she often produces GSDs with health and temperament problems. The pup is only four months old and has been a total a**hole from day 1. Growls at the owner whenever he's told to do something he doesn't want to do. Horribly dog aggressive. Chronic diarrhea that has cost the owner almost $1000 in vet bills. The owner is not a dingbat and has done everything right with the puppy. Pup has improved with training but will always be a pain in the ass and not what she wanted. The breeder won't do squat for the owner. But hey, at least the pup is a black and tan.

I don't think that Max is the only one crying. This is the first one that I have seen anywhere. It makes one wonder what the Breeders in the USA are doing and do they really know what they are doing.

Mackenzie