Blue Bay Shepherds - Page 1

Anyone care to comment? I saw one on youtube and was intrigued. My research eventually lead me to the breeders website. Seems that she is trying to create a new line but is doing everything the right way. I believe she is just about to breed her first pair of blue bays to one another as this is the sixth generation. What are your thoughts? I certainly understand the breeder's fascination with blues because I've only seen one in my lifetime and he was a beauty!

Are you talking about a German Shepherd who is considered a blue in color which is a fault.

Or some other breed that is called a Blue Bay

Their site.

http://bluebayshepherds.weebly.com/history.html

Another glorified "WeinerPoo" breeder.....

OK, to put it bluntly--she's full of shit.

Blue GSDs are not rare; the color doesn't show up as often as it might simply because breeders who follow the breed standard don't try to produce the color since it's a disqualifying fault. The people who don't have any respect for the breed standard and decide they want to produce blues [or livers, for that matter] do so the same way one propagates other traits one desires: they select breeding stock that either has the desired trait, or ones that carry the genetics to produce offspring with the trait. Blue dogs don't have any greater incidence of health issues, they don't have any temperament problems associated with the color--they're GSDs of an incorrect coat color, and make fine pets or even working dogs in all of the activities their standard-colored friends and family take part in. They simply aren't eligible to be shown in the conformation ring or for evaluation of their suitability as breeding stock...because they aren't meant to be used for breeding stock.

She can call her dogs "Blue Bay Shepherds" if she wants, but unless she's incorporated other breeds in the lines, they're still just German Shepherd Dogs that are considered faulty under the standard due to their coat color. In other words, it's just a racket to try and pass them off as something exclusive and thus justify charging an absurd amount of money for a dog that doesn't meet the standard for the breed.

"Blue dogs don't have any greater incidence of health issues, they don't have any temperament problems associated with the color"

But, when you start breeding EXCLUSIVELY for that color?

The problems typically aren't because of the color, though--it's the selection of breeding candidates strictly on the basis of them being able to produce that color, to the exclusion of attention to health or temperament, which results in the appearance of such in lines bred for the off color [or markings, or coat, or...]

I submit that if someone decided they were going to develop a line of GSDs with markedly wavy, wiry coats--which occur in some dogs while their littermates are the usual stock and longstock coats--and only selected breeding candidates which possessed or had produced such coats, temperament and health would suffer eventually, too, unless the breeder ranked those qualities as equal to the coat type.

OMG, Really!
I couldn't even bare to fully read her website. It took me a matter of 1 minute to see that all she's doing is breeding mixed dog, with wolves and calling them Blue Bay Shepherds. Then trying to claim she's developing this new, amazing breed. When it's simply a Heinz 57! She is just as bad as the cocka-poos, lab-a-doodles, etc, and everything else out there.
Her site lists no health testing and no training. They are mere kenneled wolf dogs that she's breeding. Pisses me off that people do this and makes me sick to think there are buyers out there that fall for this stupid crap.

Hey Everyone, thanks for chiming in. As I said, I was intrigued but there was something that set off my "spidey senses" and that's why I posted here. Based on what I read, she appears to have mixed other breeds into the mix. After all, those dogs have blue eyes and that is an eye color you see on a Catahoula Leopard dog or a Siberian Husky, not a Shepherd, right? Anyway, I enjoyed reading what everyone had to say. Don't worry, I am getting my next dog, which is a GSD, from a reputable breeder and I am very excited. :)

Slightly different thread.. but related. Have you seen the new "BRINDLE" shepherds that the kennel (K9 Pines) that has all the blues and livers has resurrected.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2569792-k9pines-zoey-of-hartmore-legat-kbr

 

The SV worked very hard in the beginning to eliminate this color... and now just like "Arnold from the Terminator"  they are back!

Notice that some of them have an AKC QD designation, meaning that they have a conditional registration.

http://www.akc.org/registration/conditional/