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Q Man

by Q Man on 03 September 2016 - 14:09

I'd like to see her Face...Chest...and Vent...Does she have have any color on the Face...Chest...and Vent?
I personally from "ONLY" what I can see would think that she is more likely to be a Blanket Back rather then a true Bi-Color...
And I say that not only from the 1 picture we can see but also from the pedigree in which she tends to looks more like her mother...
I do wish that our pedigrees would include "Color" on them...because sometimes there's not much of a way to tell what colors could come from a breeding...

~Bob~

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 03 September 2016 - 14:09

Having the color would be a nice thing but since we cannot get members to add the really important stuff like Reg number, Breed registry, date of birth and in so many case not even the dam and sire.  

I don't think we would have much luck with color.

 


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 03 September 2016 - 16:09

The sire is a well known solid black ... double recessive black. Two blacks in a mating only produce solid black. The female puppy can not inherit anything other than black ( recessive ) from the sire. The color genetics of the GSD is derived ( sometimes incorrectly ) based on pedigree and offspring colors produced unless true genetic testing is conducted.


Q Man

by Q Man on 03 September 2016 - 17:09

Western Rider:

I understand about getting people to enter all the information available...As a breeder I do wish I had another tool at my disposal for figuring out "Color" of some puppies...
A lot of times the only thing available is some pictures on pedigrees...I also realize that you can't always go on what a dog is registered as...as to what color a particular dog is...Just like this dog...Is she Bi-Color or Black & Tan...A lot of times you can't be sure until a puppy has matured but usually they get registered when they're young and the color can be incorrect...It's one of the things that can just be a guess...or someone who's not sure...

At birth I've seen puppies who I swear are Black...I mean solid Black...and you wait a few days or weeks and then the color comes out (to some degree)...

by belindak36 on 03 September 2016 - 18:09

Thanks for everyones input. I got her at 4 months and 1 week old. She is now 5 months old. I couldn't really tell you if she has changed much. Her breeder registered her as a bi-color. I also wondered about her father and how he was a solid black so thanks for the explanation on that. I added two pictures on her pedigree of her face and neck. Now I love her no matter what color she is but I'm just curious because I thought she was a blanket and my friend and breeder said bicolor.

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 03 September 2016 - 20:09

The pup is a blanket for sure there are no black penciled toe markings, another way you can tell a true genetic bi-color is there will not be any tan hairs on the back of the ears.

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 03 September 2016 - 20:09

Many time black and tan pups appear to be possible bi-colors when a few weeks old because they sometimes have penciled black toe marks but then they vanish and also tan hairs commonly show up at the base of the ear on back of ear, black penciled toes dont fill in latter in life on a blanket dog, but they vanish normally by several months old on a blanket.


k9trainersj

by k9trainersj on 03 September 2016 - 22:09

Yea, she is a difficult one. If she doesn't end up being a true bicolor then she will definitely be a very dark blanket back.

For her sire's pedigree... do people think it is accurate? Looking back several generations I don't see how the sables could be carrying that recessive gene for so long. It is very questionable to me.

 

Did you see the parents?


by belindak36 on 03 September 2016 - 23:09

I only saw the mother. The breeder said the sire was from frozen. I believe her sire has had a lot of pups so I would hope the pedigree was accurate. I wanted a male when I went to look at puppies and came home with her. Her temperament is the best. Friendly and confident.

k9trainersj

by k9trainersj on 04 September 2016 - 00:09

The sire is a great looking dog no doubt. Though you seem to have a great puppy and super satisfied it really doesn't matter but I can't help but question it. I understand solid black as a recession gene and both sire and dam have to carry the gene and pass it on for a puppy to be solid black. Sable is dominate and it seems every dog on the sire's side is Sable so I'm not sure where that recessive gene would have come from on his side. Maybe someone more experienced in genetics could explain. It definitely has my interest as I love learning about how their color genes work! :)






 


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