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LadyBossGSD

by LadyBossGSD on 02 June 2016 - 04:06

Hello , kinda new but would like to ask about showing my sable girl in AKC. I keep hearing from different people that sables dont do well in AKC . Why is that? Or is that even true? There is a show coming up at the end of June here in the Richmond area. Thanks

Reliya

by Reliya on 02 June 2016 - 12:06

Working line puppies don't do well because they're not extreme like dogs bred specifically for show.

 

I'm not sure, but I think USCA shows are more for working dogs.

 

The most important thing is to have fun with your puppy. I'll be taking my puppy to a USCA show in September, and he's a sable. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

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LadyBossGSD

by LadyBossGSD on 02 June 2016 - 13:06

Reliya, What is USCA? I know UKC , my male just obtained his championship through them and your right its about having fun first, which is exactly what we do. I will take her anyways & let you know how she does. Also have you heard of International All Breed Association? Oh and your pup is GORGEOUS! Thanks

Xeph

by Xeph on 02 June 2016 - 16:06

Sables finish fine in AKC. One of the top GSDs right now is a sable. It's harder to finish a black.

A WL sable is a different story, but the color itself? Easier to show than a black or a bi color

susie

by susie on 02 June 2016 - 16:06

That´s what I think, too. It´s not mainly about the color, but about the structure. Most sables are "European working lines", their structure doesn´t fit to the AKC standard - that said, they will have problems ( and structure wise a lot of working lines do have problems in my country, too ).
It is what it is.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 02 June 2016 - 16:06

OP, could you try "SV" style Shows ? - I don't fully
understand the American system but a lot of people
on here seem to refer to them. The dogs I believe
tend more towards 'German' style that AKC / USA
Standard type, with the advantage that 'working' lines
are also not so foreign to them. Dunno how you contact
them, ask the Americans ?

susie

by susie on 02 June 2016 - 17:06

Hund, a "not good looking dog" in terms of SV standard will be at the end of the ring, too. Breedworthy - yes, a good placement - no.
The only way to achieve a good rating with a "working line" within SV is to show a WELL PREPARED/TRAINED working line - and most often these dogs are NOT well trained, a lot of them lack in structure according to the standard, and most Americans either don´t know or don´t care how to prepare a dog for a "SV" show.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 02 June 2016 - 17:06

Susie, I wouldn't wish to comment on what the OP's dog looks like, in the flesh, even from photos on various threds here !Wink Smile

She's already a 'coat', so that's likely to go against her, even

given recent greater acceptance !  (OTOH, the "coaties often

have a better shape than the stock coats" ...)

I get the impression that with SV shows in the States

there are as many loopholes as there are under SV

rules/judges in other countries (than Germany, of course ;-)

Of course LadyBoss is going to have to do some ringcraft

training, but she'd have to do that if she stood a chance in

AKC classes too.

 

Anyway no one should EXPECT to win / get the best grading

available, when Showing - someone always has to be further

down the line !

As a countryman of mine always used to say:  "Winning's

not everything, but it's bloody nice !"


susie

by susie on 02 June 2016 - 17:06

She is a coat? I didn´t realize that, can´t remember the dog, I was talking "generally".
"Coats" are shown in own rings, in that case it´s no disadvantage to own a coat, at least less "opponents"...

Xeph

by Xeph on 02 June 2016 - 18:06

In AKC coats are shown together with stock coats





 


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