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by vk4gsd on 01 April 2016 - 05:04

Why do people continue to support this monster that is the AKC.

Reliya

by Reliya on 01 April 2016 - 06:04

To Hexe, there are rules to changing an AKC dog name. If the dog had been bred, the name cannot be changed. If the dog has earned a title, the dog's name cannot be changed. If the breeder first registered the dog, the dog's name cannot be changed without written permission from the breeder. If the dog's name has an AKC registered kennel name, the name cannot be changed without written consent from the kennel name owner. Imported dogs cannot have their names changed.

There may be more, but these are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.


by hexe on 01 April 2016 - 06:04

Reliya, I know there are restrictions on the name-changing, but I'm old school: the registered name is the registered name. Period.

CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 01 April 2016 - 10:04

I wonder if some of this doesn't come from people with experience in the horse world, where it's acceptable to borrow from the parents' name when naming the foal.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 01 April 2016 - 11:04

A small number of people who register kennel names
and those of individual dogs do use parental names
as part of the new name; but that is often pretty obviously
what they are doing, and isn't really part of what we are
discussing here.

For example, let's take some, totally fictional, names:
A puppy is Registered as, say, 'Sally von Spritzhaus'.
She grows up and is mated/bred to a dog called 'Eik of
Sturdyhill'. Maybe the breeder or the new owner calls
a puppy produced from this litter "Eik von Spritzhaus",
or maybe they name him "Eikson von der Somethingelse".
All of that is obvious, they have just borrowed/used the
sire's name, and maybe the mother's Kennel Name (which

btw would be totally normal here in the UK).

If however there is a well regarded existing Kennel called
Von Spritzhaus* and I decide to open a new one called
"Von Spritzenhaus", I am sailing close to the wind; or if I

use "Spryngwest" instead of Springwest, I am sailing even
closer, because it SOUNDS exactly the same, and could
just be a one-letter typo ! It sometimes does not matter :
if I breed Yorkies and the Springwest owner breeds GSDs;
or if I breed GSDs also but am otherwise always fair and
honest in my breeding and dealings with people. But you
can surely see how this CAN be abused ? (I have used
names I am fairly sure do not exist, but my apologies to
anyone who does hold those registered names, if I am
wrong !)

Don't know about AKC, but the UK Kennel Club does
undertake to weed out these sort of similarities and not
allow them to happen; but I have seen a few get through
their net, over the years. And that does not control people
who set up a breeding establishment but do not Register
the name !

* And that is working with a kennel that may be in the

same country, not just lifting wholesale the kennel

names from other countries, on imported dogs, and

using them as my own (as in the earlier example ^^^).


susie

by susie on 01 April 2016 - 20:04

Jen, my initial post was confusing at best, I am glad some where able to understand what I tried to say - sorry.
I was kind of pi.... off, because I just had found another fake kennel name in a current ad, and as always, the advertizer didn´t feel the need to answer my question... We are living in a free world...

Gigante

by Gigante on 01 April 2016 - 21:04

Well you have to pay off the right people for protection. AKC SV et al are in the greenback business, not in the business of protecting dogs or breeders. Trademarking your name shuts down the free world from scumbaggery.

Susie why would they answer back? They are doing something wrong and rather then point them out, you will just be miffed and they continue selling to ding dongs, no reason to respond. :)~

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 02 April 2016 - 07:04

Sadly I think Gigante hits the nail on the head, there !

susie

by susie on 02 April 2016 - 18:04

Gigante, I still believe in the learning ability of ( at least some ) humans... I didn´t give up yet.





 


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