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susie

by susie on 31 March 2016 - 18:03

In Germany every breeder does have his own kennel name, all of the pups do get this unique name, the call names litter-wise in alphabetical order - no name is given twice, and no owner is able to change the official name of the dog.
At first we are able to recognize breeder, dog, and heritage at once, but secondly our breeders are proud of their stock, a "famous" kennel became famous because of the achievements of their dogs.

On every occasion there are litter announcements on this board using German kennel names, although the litter was bred in the US and the "breeder" didn´t breed according to SV rules.

These "annexed" kennel names purport training/ trial/ show success the dogs in question never had, and most of them never will have.

This has nothing to do with " I am allowed to do so " - it simply has to do with "fair play". Think about it.

Reliya

by Reliya on 31 March 2016 - 20:03

So, people are ruining the good names of famous kennels to make a quick buck?

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 31 March 2016 - 20:03

They have been doing so since time without end.
It is normal in the UK to do much the same as in
Germany, we register a Kennel Name (aka Affix)
with our Kennel Club and as long as we pay 'rental'
on that name no-one else can use it. Individual dogs
is a little different; names do get repeated sometimes
for eg. But people have been known to operate under
a kennel name that is one or two letters different from
the UK or German ones, in order to fool people into
thinking they have a better record than they really have !

Gigante

by Gigante on 31 March 2016 - 21:03


On every occasion there are litter announcements on this board using German kennel names, although the litter was bred in the US and the "breeder" didn´t breed according to SV rules.

examples please

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 31 March 2016 - 21:03

I don't understand what you're saying, Susie.

by vk4gsd on 31 March 2016 - 21:03

Leerburg would be a play on words re an individual famous dog would it not?

 

Does Von mean anything it sounds German, lots Von....kennels outside of Germany, same Hauss, sounds German.


susie

by susie on 31 March 2016 - 22:03

No "examples" Gigante, not ging to specifically blame someone - but over the times I pm 'd several advertisers and asked why they used the kennel name (sometimes exactly the same, sometimes very similar) - never got an answer...

DenWolf

by DenWolf on 31 March 2016 - 23:03

At first we are able to recognize breeder, dog, and heritage at once, but secondly our breeders are proud of their stock, a "famous" kennel became famous because of the achievements of their dogs.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up

My guess is these people are either ignorant, and don't realize how rude their actions are, or they are just plain crooks, who are riding on the coat-tails of a lifetime's hard work of others.

Some pet owners get to "name" or "change" the name of their dogs, and they may not realize what they are doing..but then some others you just have to question the motives..it sure looks like they are either making themselves look like something they aren't, or are trying to imply they have something they don't.

 

AKC issues registered kennel names selectively, it does cost to do, but must also be EARNED. Better than nothing, and they have been working more with breeders to help protect such things, although I have had a few bad experiences already with name changing and other BS.

Here are some examples I have seen around..there are a lot more, like Susie says.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=507233-isis-z-pohranicni-straze-wildsau

 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=511296-jake-z-pohranicni-straze-wildsau

(read comments on THIS one)

 

And then you get the people "sharing" kennel names on dogs...   to make themselves appear they bred the dog? (I guess.... ) why else do it??  To me its stealing...  

 

 

 


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 01 April 2016 - 02:04

Ok, it looks like other people understood what you were saying, Susie. You're talking about people copying kennel names. I just think it sounds ridiculous, as DenWolf pointed out in her examples. Nothing says BYB idiot like doubling up on kennel names that make no damn sense whatsoever.

by hexe on 01 April 2016 - 05:04

And well, well, well, isn't it interesting that both dogs in the links DenWolf posted just happen to be tied to Peggy Sue Walker, aka German Shepherd Security, who presently has a thread running about her scamming multiple people in their dealing with her when it came to breeding or buying dogs...

susie, I agree with you that it's a display of poor character when someone intentionally usurps someone else's kennel name in order to trade upon the rightful owner's reputation--especially when that usurper can almost be guaranteed to NEVER do anything that would reflect positively on the real kennel name. Here in the US, however, the only kennel names that are off-limits when it comes to the main registry body [the American Kennel Club] are the ones that are registered with that organization...and it's not easy to register one's kennel name with the AKC, either.
So theft of foreign kennel names will assuredly continue here in the US. As will the changing of kennel names being used by a single individual in an effort to distance themselves from previous shady dealings and scams they've perpetrated.

Worse yet, now the AKC also allows someone who purchases a dog that is already registered with them to change the dog's registered name, which I think is heinous, but which of course makes more $$$$ for the registering body.








 


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