Crufts 2016 - Page 1

I was very disappointed with our Best of Breed winner when I saw her on TV. When she went to the Group Judging I could see that she was very skittish in the background. When she was examined by the judge the camera showed close up pictures.

When the Group Judge came to her she backed off. When the Judge went to examine the bite he could not see it properly. Her mouth was slightly open and her tongue covered the lower teeth, she was also backing down and hunched up which revealed a serious, for me, hinge in her backline. We did not see the dog gaiting as the camera just moved on to the next dog.

Very sad.

Mackenzie

Can't think what Davy Hall was playing at, Mac. I thought
as you did, during what little time the camera was on her.
FWIW, from the viewpoint of somebody outside the Ring
with no opportunity to go over the bitch for real, it appeared
to me she had more wrong with her than correct about her.
Sorry to the exhibitor if they are lurking; I know nothing
about this girl, she hasn't figured on my radar & nor has
her Kennel. JMHO.

Complete contrast to having Rico up there, the last few
years ! I was almost glad she was not pulled out for the
Group, if she was what one of our leading breeder/judge
specialists believes ought to be drawn to public attention.

I hope she was there because she was the best presented
to him on the day, and/or she has things to recommend
her not immediately visually apparent. But if that was so,
it seems to have been a bitterly dreadful Entry, and I would
be mortified if I thought that !

Off to try to watch some video of breed judging.

Popped back to say that I have not found video of
breed judging yet, will try again when the day has
warmed up ! But I have been to FosseData for the
full results, and take back what I said about the rest
of the entry; there were some class acts there,
among the other Class winners !

Which still begs the question: Why ?
Its given the webworld fuel for much ignorant yattering
about toplines AGAIN; of course no one in the twitter-
sphere is majoring on the temperament issues.

Was this chiefly a Handling failure, in the Big Ring ?
I don't think that's the answer, although it certainly
looked to have made things worse IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBq6gM0sI7A

I have to say that the handling skills in settling a dog were not present in small amount of time the dog was on the screen.

For an experienced dog person and specifically judges it does not take much to know that a dog has character problems. To my mind I can find no excuse for anyone to let this go by. It is no excuse for a Judge to say a dog did not show it when presented because when judging it is also necessary and a responsibility to look around to see more. Unfortunately, there are too many people who are only too willing to show and breed from dogs with poor character. It is those people and their ilk that has brought the breed into disrepute when it comes to character defects and other problems within the breed. The only good thing that I can say in this instance is that is a good job the dog in question is not a male.

Mackenzie

Thanks for the video Xeph. The video confirms what I have said regarding the hinge in the backline. Also, why did the handler keep lifting her front feet off of the ground? Poor handling with an untrained dog. To make this dog Best of Breed dogs does no credit to the Judge, or, is in the best interests of the breed.

Mackenzie

It was hard to tell the sex of the other dog in the ring with her, but from its size, it looked to be a male. And it looked like he was VERY interested in her! Wonder if she was coming into season?

He also had great difficulty doing any gait other than a running walk at the start of the video. I know this is just a short clip of the whole judging but based just on what I saw in that clip, she did have better movement.

Can't say I'm a fan of either dog, though.

Edit: okay, on second viewing, the other dog was definitely male. And they were damn lucky to get out of the ring without him trying to hump her!

He looked to have a hinged back, too.

SS, I too noticed the male was very interested in the female, I kind thought that was putting him off as he seemed more interested in her than anything else. Handlers could do with a refresher course, but then it was a very short clip.

And why oh why can't Crufts (and Westminister, for that matter!) give dogs the size of GSDs a larger ring to work with? It really is hard to show off their gait in a ring that small!

Morning all,

I'm glad to see that, even I'm new to the breed, I have a better eye for a nice and sound dog then the judge from Crufts 2016 !!!
And yes Hundmutter, now that I know how to get a picture up here, I will post a picture of my female, with whom I'm now planning to attend Crufts 2017...

Have a nice day, Benn