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by SitasMom on 17 October 2015 - 22:10

I was in co-ownership of a pup, prelims were not good with both elbows and a hip not passing. I signed the dog back over the other co-owner (breeder) and sent her back.
I found out recently, that she has been bred and the breeder falsified my name and its attached to the litter of puppies.
The female is not titled, I checked OFA and she doesn't show up on the database. 
What would you in this situation?


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 17 October 2015 - 22:10

Call AKC and at least let them know, not that they care.

If you have an attorney who won't charge too much, write a letter to the now owner regarding the fraud and try to urge them to do the right thing.

I once had a similar situation with a dog I decided I didn't want bred for other reasons and the co-owner refused to sign the dog over to me, even though I offered to write off the money she owed me if she would do so. She owed me a significant amount of money for her half of health checks, stud fees, travel expenses, etc. I did not want the dog bred and I really did not want to split litters with this person due to the care the dogs would (not) receive so I did the only thing I could think of that was totally ethical, and I put the dog into a wonderful home w/no papers, for "pound puppy" price. I fear the same thing would have happened if I had signed the dog over to her, because I found out that my AKC papers were invalid because she'd ordered new ones- no idea what story she came up with to do that, but what an eye-opener to find out that my set of papers had been replaced. Once that was revealed, I was doubly sure I never wanted to be involved in any of her shenanigans and the only way out was to scrap a dog I had very high hopes for.  Very upsetting situation, as this was a super nice dog and worth money, but it's better to sleep at night.

I am typically not one to start drama about things but in your case, Kim, I would consider writing it all clearly and concisely on your website so that people know you did NOT do the breeding. Even though AKC does not get involved in co-ownership disputes, in this case there is absolute fraud and forgery, so you may have an avenue. I wish you luck.

May I ask why you signed the dog over if it had health problems? I mean, why does someone need papers on a dog w/3 bad joints? 


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 19 October 2015 - 13:10

Your story sounds really familiar, Jen.  An image


by SitasMom on 20 October 2015 - 19:10

I wasn't the breeder and sent her back to him after finding out.
I got an AKC notice that I had certified the litter.

susie

by susie on 20 October 2015 - 20:10

Did the breeder really need to falsify your name, or did this happen automatically?
I´m not used to AKC procedures, but in case both of you are named as official owners for AKC, you may be the "co-breeder", willingly or not.
Did you tell AKC you are not longer involved in this dog? Can they know?
In case you signed the dog back over let´s say in Juli, and the dog was bred in August, there should be no problem to get out of this case.
Did you make a copy?
Intersting question: In case you are the "co-breeder", do belong 1/2 of the pups to you, or do you get 1/2 of the money out of puppy sales?

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 20 October 2015 - 20:10

Susie, for AKC co-owns, both parties need to sign the litter papers.

susie

by susie on 20 October 2015 - 21:10

Thank you, there may come the day I understand the American rules...





 


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