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by Blitzen on 25 September 2015 - 12:09

These documents may provide the answers some are asking about structure vs movement vs structure in the "different" lines of GSD's.

http://www.workingdogs.com/lshaw1.htm

https://gsdca.org/german-shepherd-dogs/education/judges-seminar-video

Note: the dog used by the GSDCA to illustrate correct movement is the German Sieger, Dingo v Haus Gero.


by Mackenzie on 25 September 2015 - 13:09

Dingo v Haus Gero was one of the best, if not the best, dog I have seen that was close to the standard. Super moving dog with an economic ground covering trot.

I was at the Sieger show when he made Sieger.

Mackenzie

by Blitzen on 25 September 2015 - 14:09

Sadly i never got to see him in the flesh. I am happy that the GSDCA chose him to represent the ideal GSD movement.


by Richard Medlen on 26 September 2015 - 12:09

Dingo was a very correctly structured dog. He had an almost perfect shoulder. Something missing in many lines today. His was noted for his excellent rear angulation and correct pasterns that many would and should almost die for today. A true beauty in movement on and off leash.

I owned a Dingo daughter bred to a working dog. her name was Ines vom Kaltenwangen. Though her structure was not as perfect as her father, she moved extremely well. She finished in the upper end of the V's in all the shows back then. What I remember most about her and what most of our club members from back then will remember is; she was probably the toughest dog in Protection that I ever owned.


susie

by susie on 26 September 2015 - 16:09

Richard, it´s interesting how different people think about dogs.
I didn´t like Dingo, he was just a "normal looking" dog, nothing special, nobody would have looked at him twice outside of the ring, and I didn´t like his forehand/shoulder at all. Breeding to him was a "dead end" on the male side.
A lot of people used him without much success, only the females out of him were used successfully later on.
Dando
Natz
Hardy
Natan
Rambo
...
almost nothing left, almost no second generation, although for some years his ( few good ) sons were promoted on the BSZS.


by Blitzen on 26 September 2015 - 17:09

Every now and then a dog arrives on the AKC scene that moves much sounder than his conformation would suggest it should. Maybe Dingo is one of those rare dogs? One that uses himself far better than one would expect?  At any rate, I still think that the GSDCA could have picked a much worse dog to represent the ideal GSD movement to its membership and the general public.   Hard to fault his movement IMO.


by Mackenzie on 26 September 2015 - 17:09

I can understand Susie not liking Dingo. He was not a male that on first sight you would say "wow, just look at him". He was however a complete dog and anatomically, in his day, he was the best. I appreciated him for himself and if I had had a female suited to him at that time I would certainly have wanted to use him.

I agree with Susie that his production was not what was hoped for but then that can be said of so many VA males, even today. We also must remember that production is also reliant on the females and the breeding families behind them.

Mackenzie

bea

by bea on 26 September 2015 - 17:09

Dingo was Sieger, he was used very much. lots of quality, good producing females were mated to him, but because he was a normal dog with a mediocre bloodline, especially on the mother's side, he did not produce anything noteworthy. He was a terrific mover, was a very good worker but not a producer, in fact, he was known for producing bad hips.

susie

by susie on 26 September 2015 - 18:09

Thumbs Up Bea

This video was made after Dingo became the Champion ( not 100% sure about the timeframe, though).
He was the VA1 dog and he was a good mover = a good dog for a video about movement.
I personally handled or saw better looking dogs with at least the same quality of movement.

He was not that "special"...
 


by Mackenzie on 26 September 2015 - 18:09

Just as matter of interest Susie who were the dogs that are referring to?

Mackenzie





 


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