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by 7700jimmy on 22 July 2009 - 02:07
I have two female german shepherds, right at a year old. They are in a HUGE fenced yard together and with other dogs. One of the dogs is very submissive, the other one is aggressive TOWARD HER....not any other animal or any person. The dogs are sisters, but were away from each other for several months. The "aggressive" one was the last to come here, so I dont think that is the problem. If I go out to the yard to play with them, the "aggressive" one almost always starts a fight with the other one. The fights are BAD. It is all I can do to break them up....they bleed, limp....I mean they are bad fights. I separated them today but I really dont want to keep them that way if there is a way to stop the fighting. I thought about one of the shock collars, but I dont know much about them, if they work, are safe, etc.... My shepherds are longcoats so I dont even know if she would feel the "shock'. I thought about that and then when she starts to "start a fight" using it then and see if that works. I am hoping someone will have a suggestion about what will stop the fighting. The dog who is submissive does fine and never starts a fight...she is actually scared of the other one... I have ALWAYS had more than one male and more than one female together and they did fine.....and there are two small female dogs with them who she does fine with. Can anyone help? What do you think about the shock collar? Thanks
by Kaffirdog on 22 July 2009 - 07:07
I'd recommend keeping them seperate or rehoming one or one day there will be a fight in your absence and you'll come home to a dead or seriously injured one.
Margaret N-J
by missbeeb on 22 July 2009 - 08:07
Margaret is right! Dogs may sort it out and then put it behind them... bitches never do!
by Peggy on 22 July 2009 - 14:07
If you cannot separate them then seriously consider rehoming one, this problem will get worse, much worse and as already said may reult in the death of one of your bitches
by Joyce on 22 July 2009 - 14:07
I know people that have tried muzzles, It does not solve the problem and if they were to slip the muzzles you could end up with a dead dog or two. If you can't keep them apart, Re-home one.
Best of luck,
by Jacob Angel on 22 July 2009 - 16:07
You need to keep those dogs separate until you are ready to WORK them together. (meaning having the right people and the proper tools around to keep them from fighting) If you have let them fight to limping and bleeding more than even once....( no disrespect meant here... but) You are NOT BEING a RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNER! The first time it happened you should have gone balistic, and shown them who the alpha is in the house, and that is supposed to be you. I am not saying you should have been unfair to the dogs, quite the opposite, you should be very fair, but very clear that fighting amongst your pac is NOT ACCEPTABLE behavior. Read Ceaser Milan's books.
I have not owned two female Shepherds, I have had one. The first night home, she tried to attack my male over food, I was there at the right time, and made the correction. They loved eachother after that.
If you can't devote the time to really earn the full respect of these dogs, than you need to re-home one. (It's a no-brainer which one to re-home) Once you get rid of the aggressive dog, your life will be much happier!
Best of Luck,
Jacob
by Rik on 22 July 2009 - 16:07
I do not understand why any one would allow a German Shepherd to be bullied into submission, probably day after day. And I am not talking establishing pack status. This has already been decided long ago.
Had you seperated them at an early age, then maybe now you would have 2 strong animals.
Rik
by july9000 on 22 July 2009 - 16:07
And yes they can fix that by themselves..they can kill her for example! Good Luck and don't take the chance to come back and find one of your dog killed by the rest of the pack!
by animules on 22 July 2009 - 17:07
by 7700jimmy on 22 July 2009 - 20:07
Thanks everyone for the replies. I did want to say that when I say one is submissive, I did not mean because of the fighting...I just mean in general in every way she is more submissive..... of course she is to her sister, now also. And the first fight I ever witnessed, believe me it was dealt with and for a while they were fine. I did separate them, and when I came home I brought the "submissive" one inside, and put the other one out of her kennel, which is a 10x20 size, out in the huge yard to run. After a while I brought her inside as well, and she did her usual circling of her sister and I made her stop and they each got a bone and went and laid down. I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT HAVE THEM OUT TOGETHER EVER AGAIN!! Is it a bad idea to have them inside the house supervised together? In here they can not get far enough away from me to start a fight before I can put an end to it even brewing! Or do you think the one who has gotten the short end of the stick will feel threatened and scared even with her sister just being in the house with her? Thanks again!
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