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by momma on 22 July 2009 - 01:07
Can anyone give me information on pup/young dog suffering from uncontrollable diarrhea? After numrous tests if this condition is controlable by medication would you consider it a genetic disorder? What if pups from the same father but different mothers are sharing this problem? Is Irritable bowel syndrome hereditary?Thank you for sharing.
by SitasMom on 22 July 2009 - 02:07
what are you feeding?
how old is this dog?
what are the bloodlines?
what have you already tired?
how old is this dog?
what are the bloodlines?
what have you already tired?

by JRANSOM on 22 July 2009 - 02:07
Try canned pumpkin. My pup had really bad diahrea and I gave him 1 1/2 tablespoons of canned pumpkin and next he had solid poops.
Jen
Jen

by steve1 on 22 July 2009 - 05:07
I will tell you how to stop the problem go to your Vet and ask for a bag of Hypo Allergenic DR21 R.C it does not contain meat at all expensive but will help your Dog i know i have one who can eat nothing else or his stools turn to water and as mine i guess yours has an allergy against meat of any kind, give it a go for the cost of a bag you can lose nothing else one week of feeding you will see a complete change. I spent a lot of money and tests to find out his problem it was an allergy against meat any meat he lives a normal life looks well got his BH and AD working to his ScHh1 this Autumn
Steve
Steve

by Ryanhaus on 22 July 2009 - 13:07
I would stop using that stud dog if that were the problem, I make sure people let me now if they are having any issues with their new pup, let the breeder know right away........as far as another pup having this problem, maybe what the owners are feeding it, and are they changing the food everyday...........
Although, I had one lady tell me that's what my puppy had when she had her pup for about 5 weeks, but she failed to mention that she changed the pups diet to a totally different dog food for EVERY week she had her, she did every test imaginable to check for every health problem a GSD could come down with, the only problem the puppy had was her......
I had her bring puppy back, it was on Hill's Prescription diet & Flagil & prednisone, I threw all that crap in the trash, gave the pup quality dog kibble, kept her for a week and a half, to make sure her poops were normal, (They were the day I feed her my kibble and my son walked her!) he came back with a poop bag that looked very normal to me.
She was rehomed to a very nice young couple and is the picture of health, the previous owner had not fed her for two days before she brought her back to me cause she didn't want the dog to make a mess in her car on the long trip....(2 hours)....
That is why I now have a contract that states " For ANY reason within the first 3 weeks of ownership if you do not want pup anymore, return to me for a full refund of your purchase price!
The lady that first got her thought she was going to stay little & be a pup forever....really.....come to find out she already owned small breed dogs.......
Please before you medicate your pup, keep feeding the same quality kibble, or perhaps a raw diet of the same thing for 1 whole week, you will probably see a marked change in your pup
This is my pup all grown up and in her new home...
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/515160.html
Although, I had one lady tell me that's what my puppy had when she had her pup for about 5 weeks, but she failed to mention that she changed the pups diet to a totally different dog food for EVERY week she had her, she did every test imaginable to check for every health problem a GSD could come down with, the only problem the puppy had was her......
I had her bring puppy back, it was on Hill's Prescription diet & Flagil & prednisone, I threw all that crap in the trash, gave the pup quality dog kibble, kept her for a week and a half, to make sure her poops were normal, (They were the day I feed her my kibble and my son walked her!) he came back with a poop bag that looked very normal to me.
She was rehomed to a very nice young couple and is the picture of health, the previous owner had not fed her for two days before she brought her back to me cause she didn't want the dog to make a mess in her car on the long trip....(2 hours)....
That is why I now have a contract that states " For ANY reason within the first 3 weeks of ownership if you do not want pup anymore, return to me for a full refund of your purchase price!
The lady that first got her thought she was going to stay little & be a pup forever....really.....come to find out she already owned small breed dogs.......
Please before you medicate your pup, keep feeding the same quality kibble, or perhaps a raw diet of the same thing for 1 whole week, you will probably see a marked change in your pup

This is my pup all grown up and in her new home...
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/515160.html
by oldkicker on 22 July 2009 - 14:07
It may sound odd, but I was told by a very reliable source that many Eastern European GSD's have a major problem with grains. lose the corn,wheat, and rice from their diets. I switched to Beef/Venison and potato or sweet potato, and in exactly 2 days the problem was eliminated 100% .

by mollyandjack on 22 July 2009 - 14:07
I agree with oldkicker, food allergies/intolerances can cause really bad diarrhea. One of my friend's dogs (flock guardian breed) is allergic to wheat, rice, corn, and beef. Is the pup also licking at his paws a lot? <-- sign of allergy. It's more likely that he's allergic to grains or a specific meat than ALL meat, that must be rare...never heard of it before. Could also be pancreatic insufficiency. I think that both food allergies and pancreatic insufficiency can be inherited...(but I'm of the opinion that no dog should eat grains, anyway). Natural Balance has a limited ingredient diet with ingredients you don't find in popular dog food, so if your dog is allergic to common ingredients you could try that. Can be found at Petco now, I think.
by oldkicker on 23 July 2009 - 14:07
We tried every possible external and physiological component to try and eliminate the liqui poops. excluding heart worm medicine and flea and tick medicine (through the winter months), filtered water, different meats, even sent blood samples to Texas A&M (negative). the Natural Balance worked wonders, the new Eukanuba Wild Formula works also, even though there is some rice in it though not the main ingredient. I passed it along to my who has several K9 customers, some with the same symptoms and no relief. Have not found out if they've tried this change, but it sure worked for us in only 2 days

by Rik on 23 July 2009 - 14:07
momma, here is what I did for the last dog I had with such issues.
AS oldkicker said, I switched to a grain free dog food. (Dick van Patten "Sweet Potatoes and Venison") + 30 days of Tylan.
My vet did not prescribe the Tylan, but after many trips they can find nothing, so I take advice from people here Also for a couple of days, I gave the dog Immodium, to slow down the BM and give time to adjust to new food. Check with your Vet on this.
I also mixed a couple tablespoons of canned pumpkin in each meal. On top of this I sprinkled FortiFlora, a probiotic for dogs.
I fed only this, no extras, no hot dog for tracking or training. In about 3 days, the dog's stool starts to firm up. In a week, he is very good. This dog had no more issues.
Also, the suggestion for a meat free diet is worth looking into
If your vet finds nothing wrong. then you will have to try and find a livable solution. Many sensible suggestions here.
Good Luck,
Rik
AS oldkicker said, I switched to a grain free dog food. (Dick van Patten "Sweet Potatoes and Venison") + 30 days of Tylan.
My vet did not prescribe the Tylan, but after many trips they can find nothing, so I take advice from people here Also for a couple of days, I gave the dog Immodium, to slow down the BM and give time to adjust to new food. Check with your Vet on this.
I also mixed a couple tablespoons of canned pumpkin in each meal. On top of this I sprinkled FortiFlora, a probiotic for dogs.
I fed only this, no extras, no hot dog for tracking or training. In about 3 days, the dog's stool starts to firm up. In a week, he is very good. This dog had no more issues.
Also, the suggestion for a meat free diet is worth looking into
If your vet finds nothing wrong. then you will have to try and find a livable solution. Many sensible suggestions here.
Good Luck,
Rik

by mollyandjack on 23 July 2009 - 17:07
I too can vouch for the pumpkin and immodium, but be careful with dosage (especially with a puppy, so def. check with the vet per your dogs weight). Sometimes it seems like the dog's digestive system gets irritated from being irritated and you have to help it rest.
Also, I'm assuming you have a gsd...but if you have other breeds with the same problem be sure that they don't have the mdr1 mutation before giving immodium. It can kill them if they have full expression of the mutation. (Likely breeds: collies, sight hounds, etc.)
Also, I'm assuming you have a gsd...but if you have other breeds with the same problem be sure that they don't have the mdr1 mutation before giving immodium. It can kill them if they have full expression of the mutation. (Likely breeds: collies, sight hounds, etc.)
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