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by yogidogmatt on 27 October 2014 - 10:10
Hi I am about to mate my gsd 1 2 to manus van tiekerhook bitch very strong sturdy full of drive male is super strong very confident and drive that will never stop very very focused has anyone bred this line and what was the outcome thanks

by Sunsilver on 27 October 2014 - 13:10
He's 12 years old? Are you sure he's still producing sperm? I would have him tested first to make sure he is still fertile at that age. Then, if he is, and he's still strong and healthy, like you say...go for it.
Tiekerhook lines are very strong working dogs. Koos Hassing pays close attention to both temperament and structure for his dogs, and believes the female lines are JUST as important, if not more important than, the males!
So, though I don't know this specific bitch or her lines, she is likely a very good dog.
Edit: would be nice to know your male's lines, then posters could comment more knowledgeably. For instance, is there any linebreeding in this proposed mating? How old is the female?Titles for these dogs?
We need to know DETAILS! :D

by yogidogmatt on 27 October 2014 - 14:10

by kitkat3478 on 27 October 2014 - 19:10
SS...I think OP is saying their dog is bred 1...2 on Manus

by Ctidmore on 27 October 2014 - 19:10
I was thinking after looking up the male he was showing he is 1 year 2 months old?? At least that is how old he is according to what is here in the pdb.

by yogidogmatt on 27 October 2014 - 20:10
by Ibrahim on 27 October 2014 - 20:10
Hi the OP is planning to mate his male dog named helix vom oaksburg
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2166294-helix-vom-oaksburg
to a female named bell von saundersville
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2088108-bell-von-saundersville
Linebreeding of offspring will be 5-3 on Manus van Tiekerhook
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=424600-manus-van-tiekerhook
and 5-5 on Tom van't Leefdaalhof
Anyone can give opinion on this pairing? here is outcome
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=2166294&mother=2088108
by Ibrahim on 27 October 2014 - 20:10
Yogi,
This might be interesting to you, Manus was mated to his own daughter in England

by BlackMalinois on 27 October 2014 - 21:10
Well there are some dogs what I like in the pedigree but there are also some unknown dogs for me
I don,t know what this dogs produced, what are you training and what is your goal for this litter
what are the properties from the female and male .
We all know Pike Schaffbachmuhler, Nick Heiligenbosch, Dasty,
Yoschy, the more civil stronger dogs but a lot of unknown dogs for me I don,t know what they bring on the table..
(also the health)

by yogidogmatt on 27 October 2014 - 21:10
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