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http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2184063-philly-hurt

Wanted to get some opinions on this pedigree.

Thaks

Hi Rodney, I see you are new to the board welcome. You may have better luck getting some feedback if you first give us a bit more info, What is your relationship with this bitch. Do you own her or breed her? Are you thinking of buying her? What do you hope for her - companion dog, sport or competition dog ( if so what sports schutzhund, akc obedience, herding agility etc), a working dog ( SAR or K9 or custom dog or service dog etc). Are you hoping to make a breeding dog of her and if so why and to what end ( what makes her breed worthy  and what are your goals in  breeding). With this information we can thus frame a more useful answer for you.

However to get things started I will offer some comments as long as you get it that this is a paper evalation - I do not know the bitch or her parents. To start with I note that she is two years old without any working titles or health certificates. I am concerned by the number of dogs in the first three generations that also lack one or both of those two things. The linebreeding shows me she is distantly linebred on two individuals - one of west german working lines (wgwl)  the other belgian but who is really a combo of wgwl and DDR (east german) dogs.

I always like looking at a 5-7 generation pedigree to see what's behind the dog. While I see several dogs that I personally like I also see many that I am less thrilled about. What I also see is that in reality this girl has a very open pedigree -what we would call an outcross. The primary cross is between Czech lines and West german Show lines (WGSL) with a smattering of wgwl, belgian and ddr dogs.

Now I am personally a fan of outcrossing - if done right- and think we need to do more of mixing the factions within our breed. My own sport and service dog Remy http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=785214-the-hallmarks-of-a-good-shepherd#785321 was what we jokingly called a half breed. Her sire was wgsl and her dam knpv working dogs. When doing such a drastic outcrossing it's important to choose for a consistent type or it will be impossible going forward because of the range of types and traits that you will get. In Remy's case the consistency of type came from her sire's working ability. He was linebred on show dogs known for their work ethic and he himself was KNVP titled and the tracking champion in three countries. Remy was a great tracker who free tracked. She passed her TD certification with a breeze after not having tracked in over 6 months.

My concern looking at this pedigree is that I do not see any consistency of type. I really don't know what the breeders were choosing for - it's just not apparent to me. By type I not only mean body structure and work ability but also all the things that go into that nerves, temperament etc. The czech dogs bring a totally different nerve base and temperament than do the show dogs. There is also very little commonality in breed type or structure. And yes I like a good structure not only aesthically but a correctly structured dog has an easier time of it. Putting together very different body types can sometimes be a  bit like a puzzle and some come together nicely and others are a disaster. So without knowing the breeders and what their intent was externally to me it just looks like a bit of a mismash.

So without knowing more about you and this girl that's about all I can offer at this point. Please share with us some more info and especially a picture of her if you have it.