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by duke1965 on 16 May 2014 - 09:05
what do you think and who will use it??
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0096618
by duke1965 on 16 May 2014 - 09:05
by joanro on 16 May 2014 - 11:05
I am not going to eliminate my good dogs from the gene pool using HD DNA alleles as a factor. This breed is doomed if breeders and buyers depend on DNA to choose what dogs are available, and which dogs are cut.
Even if two dogs will produce DNA tested perfect hips, what about the rest of the dog in the equation?

by kitkat3478 on 16 May 2014 - 14:05
Especially OFA good, does not always mean pups are OFA good.
And how is this...dog gets poor rating from OFA, but very good from PennHip?
Which reading is correct?

by sentinelharts on 16 May 2014 - 14:05
I am interested in tracking its accuracy. I believe there are environmental factors involved in HD as well, it surely can not predict for that.
I will probably test a few dogs here and there and see what the results are over time. I would not use this as a sole factor in my decision making but it may become a part of an entire decision process when planning a breeding.
by joanro on 16 May 2014 - 14:05

by kitkat3478 on 16 May 2014 - 15:05
I didn t even hit that button joan, my finger must have slid over the screen...damn that 'feathering" the screen. lol
I got this tablet that is very sensitive. Believe me, I can spell better than this thing makes it look, also.

by yellowrose of Texas on 17 May 2014 - 20:05
As a breeder, I worried and fretted for years over Hips
I know for sure that a male with hip dysplasia can produce pups with OFA excellent hips and have seen it done three times... most of litter were ofa good and some never tested as sold for pet papered pups.
THE bitch was ofa good and I know that the person who bred these pups did it as he is a long long long time german shepherd dog breeder and trainer..HE has studied many pedigrees and done his own breeding test to prove that HD is mysterious and may not be heriditary...I agree with Joanro THE hips are not the end all..You can go around the breeding and get out of the litter bred an excellent and a good and proceed to better your line by then breeding but do not get upset when even down the next line...your mind gets blown as here comes the HD dysplasia again...I do not think man can get this HD out of any line.. HOW many have breed Excellent hips w good hips or 2 good hips and had a litter of half HD pups...
I get dizzy trying to study the Failure or the success of HIPS in our wonderful breed. I have three males who did not pass ofa, never bred them but they can work and out last my ofa good boy all day long...never one sign at 9 yrs old of arthur or burt or HD but were ofa mild...I do not know nor will I ever know..I am retired so I just wait for the best we can know to do on hips.
I CONSIDER, intelligenct, prey,/food drives and all the other genetic players more important along with Hips..not dismissing them but I agree with jOAN....
YR

by Kaffirdog on 18 May 2014 - 13:05
I doubt it will be possible to find any dog, of any breed, tha tdoes not have the genes for Hip Dysplasia.
Margaret N-J
by Blitzen on 18 May 2014 - 13:05
Honestly, most of the GSD breeders I know don't get much HD anymore anyway. They have reduced it in their lines by breeding normals to normals, paying attention to the status and production of sibs, 1st, 2nd, 3rd degree relatives and by sedating for xrays. Most of those who use the SV recertify with OFA at 24 months, 12 months might be too young for a permanent hip cerification for some GSD's.
IMO it would be good to know the DNA status of breeding stock, but I myself would put more emphasis in that dogs' production record and that of it sibs, parent, grandparents.
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