help..... i need advice on my two 8 month old german shepherd pups - Page 3

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Jersey Girl,  Based on the fact that her ears stay up on their own sometimes, there is still hope they will be ok, with some help. Trimming the ears may do it and if not, try bracing. I know this doesn't solve your bigger problems, but at least it will solve the ear issue. I sure hope you can work things out with the breeder. At least you are communicating and that is a start.

Thank you all for understanding i really apperciate the advice everyone has given me. I am just so so upset i have posted the whole conversation from fb between the breeder and the breeders name is Majic Forest German shepherds Vickie Garrick. I read up and really thought she was a great breeder i really did She is located in Utah right now. I have tried to discuss with her as you can seee the problems. She will not give me a replacement she won't even work with me she is telling me the ears and hernias aren't gentic and all this mumbo jumbo. I have been nice about it as you can see she came off hand cocked and basically screwed me over in front of my face and doesn't even give to craps. She swears that it isn't gentic i need to post the ears and get the hernias removed then she is breedable. I DO NOT think so i am so upset about this i really am tired of it, Thank you KITKATT  and StarCharr, as well as JC Carol and everyone else here i don't remember all the names. You are all the best. Now that you understand the whole situation and see what i am talking about as well. I have tried to talk with her about the sitaution and it got me no where so now i guess it is up to me on what i should do. I am DEFIENTLY spaying her i am NOT breeding her at all i refuse i can not and will not breed a defective dog and sell their puppies i just cna't and won't i think its a crapy thing to do. Don't get me rong i love her very much although now i have to start from scratch. I paid 1,900 for her. I guess i will choke that up as a loss once again i don't know what else i can even do at this point. I can also find her a home but i do love her and the thing i worry about is that she has been here all her life and i don't know how she would act unless she went to proffesional ppl that have german shepherds. I don't know i am still ups in this situation i do love her very much i hate to do this being that she is a good girl and it isn't her fault. I just hate this. I understand it happens i guess but this is twice now this happens to me. I do know acouple very good friends of mine that are excellant breeders and lisenced. So there for i am starting with them i will make sure i stay with them and only them and NEVER go to anyone else. I am really upset about this whole thing tho i am not going to lie. I can't bleieve ppl only care about money and don't care about the breed. that makes me wonder on things hoenstly if she tells me to do all this does she do that. I don't know anyhow thank you all again for your advice i posted the whole convo as i said above so you can see here what i am dealing with.

I don´t know if it´s a good idea to post a private conversation here...

I´d like to see a picture of the ears of both dogs. Eight months is late, but not too late, without any pics impossible to judge.
Hernias, genetic, not genetic, Mega-E, carrier, no carrier, soft ears in two littermates ...I wouldn´t breed this female, too.

But why at all do you think about breeding? With a 8 months old dog you should think about hips, elbows, teeth, conformation, and - most important - working abilities and training.
I took a look at the Majic Forest website, they are breeding nice pets, not more, not less.

Is this really YOUR goal ??? Do you want to breed pets or do you want to breed German Shepherds somewhen in the future?
Why don´t you just train your dogs, have fun, and learn about the breed?

I went to the breeder's site and one of the dams they just had a litter with is Pennhip 20 percentile :-/  Yikes.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/breeding.result?father=1337581&mother=1325272

Susie breeding german shepherds has always been my dream. i have done alot homeowrk on german shepherds and know alot about them the orgination and their temperments, and coloring. Not to mention i am learning pedigrees different ones and all that good stuff i know quit a bit with german shepherds i have loved them since i was very little not to mention i put my heart out to the breed i absolutly love the breed and realize it is a very hard and not easy to raise puppies i am awarre of all of this and will not mind doing. I have good friends that are breeders that are helping me and steering me in the right direction. They are helping me from now on. They are going to see to it that i will not get screwed over no more.

i will upload photos of them i just took so photos of them both. I know 4 of them had hernias, not to mention i know my two have it another sibling has it, the brother has the mega e, and their ears are floppy the brothers won't even go up. Its very hard to tell i will say they are 8 months there ears should have gone up by now however i do realize that some shepherds ears need a boost but teh breeder didn't help me until they were 7 months old which is alittle to late honestly in my opionon. She told me the hernias will go away but never have. the sister to them still has the hernia. I am not going to breed her. I am going to start over again tho. I do understand not every dog is for breeding i do know that. I know my girl is only 8 months i orginally bought her for breeding meanig once she passes her DM test and her Penn hip cert and all is well with her i would breed her if she didn't have these problems. I am not breeding her and would NEVER breed her if her elbows and hips do not pass i have been thru another painful situation that involves hips and i could NEVER EVER put anyone thru what i went thru. When i do breed or get into breeding i can ensure you all it will be done the right way. It wll not be half ass or the rong way. I will stand behind my dogs and not to mention they will have their hips and elbows certified and DM tested before anything. If they do not pass i will spay and neuter. I am a very nice girl i am young yes however everyone follows their goals and dreams if they can right so that is what i am doing. I guess tho because i am to nice some people feel its ok to take advantage of me and screw me big time.  Majic forest breeds or she claims she breeds companions and pets as well as breeding dogs and show dogs. She breeds nothing but long coats ocasionally has some short coats.  I also have been working with my dog and training. Confirmation is important yes i realize that but not every dog is cute out to be a show dog. Confirmation is great to have in a breeding male or female. However it is not everything. Temperment is a big thing when it comes down to breeding there is alot of things to factor in. Like i mentioned tho i am not thinking about breeding my female at this time i was saying i bought her to get into breeding as long as she passed everything that needed to be done and also had a great temperment.  I forget how to post pics i will do my best to try tho