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GrimReaper0772

by GrimReaper0772 on 09 December 2013 - 15:12

My puppies keep developing Coccidia when they leave.  I worm them with Fenbendazole & Pyrantel Pamoate regularly. I use newspapers to help with cleanup.  I clean once to twice a day depending on how many puppies.  What can I do to not have the coccidia happen?  How do you other breeders clean up?  My puppies are born in the house.  I do not put them out in the cold.  Please be nice. I am just trying to fix a problem & could use all the help I can get.  I want my puppies to go with no problems.  Thanks!!

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

I have not had that with dogs, but I did have it with my reptiles.  It is a royal pain in the rump to get ride of.   Here is what I had to do.

Every day, the living quarters have to be completely cleaned.  That means everything in the room is thrown away everyday and replenished new; all items not thrown away to be bleached.  They can only go to the restroom in there, as the parasite can be transmitted by feces. Add that to the medicine given. It takes 6 - 8 weeks to get rid of.  Much easier to handle with a reptile, as everything in the quarantine quarters was made of cardboard.; easy to toss and replenish.  Easy to wipe down with Clorox wipes.  I can't imagine how to do it with puppies.

Hopefully someone else on this site can give you a better alternative.

by Ibrahim on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

I didn't know what coccidia is, I looked it up, here is what I found, for those who don't know what it is

From Wikipedia

Coccidia (Coccidiasina) are a subclass of microscopic, spore-forming, single-celled obligate intracellular parasites belonging to the apicomplexan class Conoidasida.[1] As obligate intracellular parasites, they must live and reproduce within an animal cell. Coccidian parasites infect the intestinal tracts of animals,[2] and are the largest group of apicomplexan protozoa.

Infection with these parasites is known as coccidiosis. It is commonly found in dogs and puppies intestine due to immature immune system.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

Once it's there, it's there, unfortunately. VERY hard to get rid of entirely. 

I've had good luck with putting Sulmet in the water (it's similar to Albon but available in farm stores- google it) and Kocci-Free. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/coccidia.html  I got an import who was really sick with it and the Sulmet in the water fixed it FAST.

 

by Ibrahim on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

Jenni,

What are the symptoms? How can you tell if a puppy or a dog is infected? Thanks

Jyl

by Jyl on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

As mentioned I would completely clean the area where the puppies and all the other dogs are. I would also treat ALL your dogs (all puppies and all adults) for Coccidia. There is a brand called BAYCOX that I know some breeders use. Here is a place that I found doing a google search for Baycox...
http://horseprerace.com/toltrazuril(Compare-the-active-ingredient-of-Baycox%C2%AE)/toltrazuril-for-epm-200ml/

The Fenbendazole & Pyrantel Pamoate will not treat Coccidia. It will only kill worm and Giardia.

Good luck.

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

coccidiosis is most often spread by birds.  do you have chickens, pigeons, birdfeeders in your yard?  is there any way the dam
or pups might be picking up bird droppings?  i agree with sulfa medications to get rid of it, but first you must figure out where
it is coming from.  what about the dam?  does she carry it & give it to the pups?  female dogs are sometimes awful about eating
poop----other than cleaning up after puppies.  my dogs will grab chicken poop so fast it will make your head spin.  Angry Smile

pjp

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 December 2013 - 16:12

Ibrahim, in tiny pups it acts a LOT like parvo. Often, people treat for "parvo" and they get better, because they never had parvo. Coccidia will resolve itself as the dog's body fights it, but pups often need supportive care or they CAN die. Older dogs typically just have stool issues, if any symptoms at all. It shows up when they're stressed, typically- at weaning, after shipping, etc. 

by Ibrahim on 09 December 2013 - 17:12

Thanks Jenni, appreciate the explanation

by Laural H on 09 December 2013 - 17:12

Sent you a PM





 


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