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by Amanda52 on 20 November 2013 - 02:11

I have been looking into purchasing a stud, I have met a breeder who sells a few different breeds.  She wants a higher price for a puppy with breeding rights but, the pups are not registered.  I was under the impression that puppies must be registered in order to be sold with or without breeding rights. Any answers would be greatly appreciated! I dont want to have to pay the extra $400 if I am not required to. Thank you!  I am not a breeder.

greyhoundgirl

by greyhoundgirl on 20 November 2013 - 03:11

If you are not a breeder, why are you looking to buy a stud and wanting breeding rights. If you breed your dog, you are a breeder.

Why are you looking to buy a dog from someone that breeds multiple breeds and sells them unregistered? This person screams puppymill and you should run as fast as you can.

The only real way a breeder can attempt you to not breed your dog is to sell an AKC registered pup on a limited registration rather than a full registration. You could still breed the pup, but would be unable to get them registered.

It sounds like you need to do a lot more research into buying a dog and what it takes to breed good dogs. Please take the time to do so. Not only will you end up with a better dog of your own, but you won't be adding to the pet overpopulation problem.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 20 November 2013 - 03:11

I'm confused?  You are looking to buy a "stud" dog, but your not a "breeder?"  Do you plan on studding this dog out or are you just looking for a male dog as a pet? 

Back yard breeders with little ethics and no morals can do what ever they want.  They can sell their unregistered, poorly bred dogs any number of ways. The whole thing sounds very odd to me.  My answer would be to find a reputable breeder and run from this one.  Better yet go to the shelter and adopt a dog. That is far better than getting a dog and supporting a Backyard breeder like your describing.

Perhaps, I have this all wrong?????????????????

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 20 November 2013 - 18:11

I'm lost, too. Either terminology isn't intended as it sounds or.......................?

For example, trying to give benefit of the doubt, I have a stallion I don't breed, but I still call him a "stud." Are we misunderstanding or is someone really asking whether they should pay extra for unregistered breeding rights? LOL

CMills

by CMills on 20 November 2013 - 18:11

sounds fishy to me! I won't buy a dog without AKC paperwork, but that is just me. I want to know what exactly I'm getting.

by mholmes000 on 20 November 2013 - 19:11

Why would you purchase from this person.  Find someone else.

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 20 November 2013 - 22:11

If the pup's unregistered, how would they stop you from having breeding rights if you already don't care about registration?

by vonrivera on 20 November 2013 - 22:11

I think when she says stud she means male.

GSD Lineage

by GSD Lineage on 20 November 2013 - 22:11

Good Point Blackthorn,
Lately things have gotten "different", and for money, the AKC is registering dogs from unregistered parents anyway, The only drawback is you can't get the DOB or the color.
They are also changing the name should you not want the breeder's kennel name.

What makes a puppy a potential stud?

a. The breeder was paid $400 more.
b. The puppy turned into a great dog.


Ohh, and before this DNA thing.... never mind...

Amanda52, what breed is this? and what registry?
Some breeds are full of animals with unknown parentage, or simply unregistered, yet sometimes the breeders have records of their own they give out.

Western Rider

by Western Rider on 20 November 2013 - 23:11

Amanda do you mean the dam and sire are not registered so the pup is not.

Or are the parents registered and the pup had not been BUT has a litter registration so that you can register him.

If you have a litter registration application then the Breeder can mark it so that you can register the pup as Full registration or Limited.

 





 


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