The WDA Scorebook Situation, Follow As We Go Through The Process - Page 21

USCA President announced in an e mail to it's members the WDA scorebook issue is complete. Some terms of the original letter were modified/clarified in a meeting with Mr. Heinke and Mr. Lux. In particular, The WUSV understands the GSDCA and GSDCA/WDA are separate organizations, but, consider both WUSV affiliated for the purpose of entries into events. They cited other countries with similar two club structure existed in such a relationship and requested USCA consider the relationship in the same light for the sake of  working together. This has been the big obstacle and it appears the middle ground was reached. Both organizations are to accept results from each other, and of course accept each other's scorebooks.

Membership in either the WDA,GSDCA or USCA is required to be entitled to participate. This just closes the loophole created by the letter. The WDA should follow up and modify Item #3 on their order form to exclude non-members ability to obtain a scorebook. This would remove the burden of USCA verification that all those that possess a GSDCA/WDA scorebook are GSDCA or WDA members. Each organization is allowed to charge an additional fee to members of the other club, as long as it is reasonable and not meant to deter entry. Other clarifications established the order of precedence regarding admission into trials.

The purpose of this exercise on PDB as stated in the beginning, has been to close the last remaining obstacle separating the members of each club from accessing the events of the other. For this purpose we have been successful. All elements of the JA have been circumvented. It's done. It has created a more complex and costly system to navigate at a time when it's hard enough to interpret all the rules. In it's wake the GSD community has been impacted as predicted by a further division between the working and conformation sides at a time in history when each were striving to work towards the improvement of the working and show lines in general. Many members switched club affiliation and sadly to say, many just left. Big looser was USCA in the form of revenue. Hopefully the amendment can be modified as previously proposed to rid the GSD community of the continued reminder of the second failed attempt to divide the GSD community.

GSD enthusiasts across the country can now enter whatever event they wish. It's back to where it was pre-JA. The WDA board members who for months insisted their scorebooks were approved, knowing full well they were not, can now finally truthfully say they are approved.

The posting to members of USCA about "the meeting" and "the letter" was quite entertaining.  It was all Alloway's one sided highly spun version of what happened. Despite the fact that at the last possible minute the USCA decided to read and obey the WUSV constitution or have their toys taken away, Alloway painted the USCA as the "good guys".  That's all crapola but I can't wait to see what the WUSV says to all this BS.  What is in the constitution of the WUSV is the rule of GSDCA, GSDCA-WDA, and USCA.  What Alloway wrote is some half truths and some actual truths so perhaps things are getting better, who knew??  His letter to the USCA membership has no binding effect on the GSDCA or GSDCA-WDA it was just the fairy tale of USCA's highly spun account of what happened in Germany with Henke and Lux.  The WUSV runs the relationship and rules of the WUSV member clubs in the USA and Alloway's letter has no bearing on that.  The USCA leads the USCA and that is the only role they have in the USA or world

DOG1

The GSDCA-WDA scorebooks were accepted by every other WUSV member club in the world continuously until present day except USCA.  The WUSV is controlled by the membership and the board and they had always accepted and recognized the GSDCA-WDA scorebooks.  No other WUSV member club in the world did not accept the GSDCA-WDA except the USCA.  The GSDCA-WDA members competing at the WUSV world championships used GSDCA-WDA scorebooks each year while the USCA refused to accept them.  The president of the SV/WUSV in February traveled to judge a small GSDCA-WDA event and wrote his scores in GSDCA-WDA scorebooks.  I expected that the lies from USCA would continue and DOG1 you have not disappointed.

So, what’s the problem, USCA received clarification on what they tried to get answered in the past. They have assurances that their position in WUSV is secure. The WUSV has made it clear that they recognize the WDA, so the GSDCA is out of the picture and can go do their thing. All you need is WDA membership and a scorebook. USCA can charge a fee for non-members and USCA members have priority to events. The JA is still in place (The SV has the same rule in Germany). It’s settled, get your scorebook and start trialing in USCA events under USCA judges, you have 300+ to choose from.

Non-Member fees are being negotiated between WDA and UScA as we speak (or write in this case), and will be announced soon.

I can see a $20 or so non-member fee for any non-member entering another club's event, with some going back to the parent club for the extra paperwork. What do you think a fair non-member fee should be?
 

I notice that NO ONE of the WDA folks has bothered to explain WHY they don't have their OWN trials, if they care so much about trialing. Sitasmom? Booboo? Please explain why you insist on leeching. Isn't that just insisting on receiving "schutzhund welfare"?

So are all AWDF club members that trial at a UScA trial "leeching" off the UScA?  Are all the other AWDF clubs that use UScA judges?
Leeching off the UScA? Get over yourself. UScA has the most trials and the best judges. If the new UScA  attitude is all non members that pay entry fees to trial at your trials are "leeches" and "Schutzhund Welfare" recipients there's a easy way to change that.

Thomas Barriano
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Mystere,

Our club is new (3 months young), we are planning a Regional Show and Breed Survey, with German SV judge, right now. Oh, and we're also working to hold a helper skills seminar.

Most of our members are very new to the sport. This fall we plan to hold our first trial, when all the puppies are old enough and have enough training.

Our goal is to have one show/breed survey and one trial a year.

UScA is always welcome to enter!

 

Nothing like starting the new relationship on a positive note. This development is really a win/win situation of you can get past the BS.

Here's a link to the WDA events:

http://gsdca-wda.org/asp/eventsCalendar.aspx

The WDA has their own trials. If there's a trial closer or at a more convenient time, the option to enter is available to both clubs. Can we cut the 'welfare' crap now?

 Then why all the whining about entering USCA trials?    It is not a "new" relationship--it is the same relationship, with a requirement that USCA accept WDA scorebooks, more, perhaps, because of business relationships than anything to do with WUSV's constitution or anything else.   As long as USCA maintains the surcharge of non-members, I really don't care.  But, don't pretend that it is a symbiotic relationship.

Our  AWDF sister-clubs  are not, and never were, an issue.  Many, if not most, of those AWDF clubs are also USCA clubs.

 

Get over yourself. UScA has the most trials and the best judges

  Yes, we do.  Thank you for (finally) acknowledging that.