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by guddu on 15 December 2012 - 18:12
I thought it might be best to start a new thread on this.
- Why do breeders buy expensive dogs, 6 figure range
- I dont see them getting a return on that investment, through stud fees atleast. Is there prize money that is huge ?
- 5 figures is a big sum for most breeders, unless its a major high throughput kennel. So, how do they afford it. Why not just pay a stud fee as opposed to buying the dog ?
Just trying to understand the logic of such purchases...or is it like purchasing an art painting!
Note: Edited from 5 figures to 6 figures
- Why do breeders buy expensive dogs, 6 figure range
- I dont see them getting a return on that investment, through stud fees atleast. Is there prize money that is huge ?
- 5 figures is a big sum for most breeders, unless its a major high throughput kennel. So, how do they afford it. Why not just pay a stud fee as opposed to buying the dog ?
Just trying to understand the logic of such purchases...or is it like purchasing an art painting!
Note: Edited from 5 figures to 6 figures

by vomeisenhaus on 15 December 2012 - 19:12
5 figures could be between 10 or 20 g's. Not hard to get 10-20 breedings with the right dog.

by vomeisenhaus on 15 December 2012 - 19:12
5 figures could be between 10 or 20 g's. Not hard to get 10-20 breedings with the right dog.
by Ibrahim on 15 December 2012 - 19:12
In the same line, some very good breeders in the US sell their puppies between $ 1200-2000, why do many buyers buy puppies at higher price than $ 2000?!!!!

by Hundmutter on 15 December 2012 - 19:12
Guddu:
Big Prize money ? - Not very often, in most countries.
More 'major throughput' kennels, IMO&Exp, are likely
to pay high prices, and more frequently, than the small
'hobby breeder', yes. Because: well, a bigger more
successful kennel, like all businesses, operates on
that larger scale and can find money to buy what they
really want for their bloodlines, as opposed to making
do with what is available at public stud from other owners.
Of course its a gamble ... but isn't everything ?
Plus: there are returns on it if it works out well - as
vomeisenhaus points out, if you pay $10,ooo for the
dog and can then make $1000 stud fee, given he
serves 20 bitches while you own him, that is 'double your
money' - without counting profit you might manage to
make on your own litters by him (and if one of the reasons
you paid a lot for him was that he was already a proven
sire, of good size litters ...).
And yes, I think for some people at least it IS like buying Art.
Big Prize money ? - Not very often, in most countries.
More 'major throughput' kennels, IMO&Exp, are likely
to pay high prices, and more frequently, than the small
'hobby breeder', yes. Because: well, a bigger more
successful kennel, like all businesses, operates on
that larger scale and can find money to buy what they
really want for their bloodlines, as opposed to making
do with what is available at public stud from other owners.
Of course its a gamble ... but isn't everything ?
Plus: there are returns on it if it works out well - as
vomeisenhaus points out, if you pay $10,ooo for the
dog and can then make $1000 stud fee, given he
serves 20 bitches while you own him, that is 'double your
money' - without counting profit you might manage to
make on your own litters by him (and if one of the reasons
you paid a lot for him was that he was already a proven
sire, of good size litters ...).
And yes, I think for some people at least it IS like buying Art.

by vomeisenhaus on 15 December 2012 - 19:12
Exactly Ibrahim. 20 breedings and a couple of personal breeding with 16 puppie for sale at $1,500 isnt chump change. You have people paying that much for pups out of dogs with no more credentials than good hips...lol.

by guddu on 15 December 2012 - 19:12
Sorry, I cant even count, I was referring to dogs in the 100,000 $ range, ie 6 figures.

by Hundmutter on 15 December 2012 - 20:12
Oh, SIX figures ??? Wow!!! Well outside my range of
knowledge I'm afraid ! I used to work for someone
very rich, but there is no way he'd pay that for a dog. A
car, maybe. The only mention of six-figure sums I am
familiar with is what it is said some people would be
willing to pay for a fully trained personal protection dog;
and that doesn't mainly seem to be about breeding
potential. And as many have pointed out, its crazy money,
the seller 'sees the buyer coming'
I can't help
wondering exactly how many sales at that level ever
acually take place, or whether its all big talk ?
knowledge I'm afraid ! I used to work for someone
very rich, but there is no way he'd pay that for a dog. A
car, maybe. The only mention of six-figure sums I am
familiar with is what it is said some people would be
willing to pay for a fully trained personal protection dog;
and that doesn't mainly seem to be about breeding
potential. And as many have pointed out, its crazy money,
the seller 'sees the buyer coming'

wondering exactly how many sales at that level ever
acually take place, or whether its all big talk ?

by susie on 15 December 2012 - 20:12
Males are sold for a lot more than 100.000 € every year, mostly showlines, but some workinglines, too.
These are the top sport dogs ( show/trial ) and they are sold mostly to China, USA, Indonesia, Japan...
People who buy these dogs are aware they won´t be able to get their money back with some studs.
They already have the money and now they want the dog.
These are the top sport dogs ( show/trial ) and they are sold mostly to China, USA, Indonesia, Japan...
People who buy these dogs are aware they won´t be able to get their money back with some studs.
They already have the money and now they want the dog.
by Blitzen on 15 December 2012 - 21:12
Why do people spend 500K for one car to add to their collection? Or 100K for a trap gun or millions for a house? Or spend millions on one room? Or spend enough money on vacations and toys to feed a thiird world country for years? Why do some women have more shoes than they can ever wear in a lifetime. Or way too much jewelry, etc, etc, etc.? Cause they can.
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