Help Filling Holes In My Dog's Pedigree - Page 1

My new pup has a pedigree filled with holes further back. This is her pedigree so far: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1845819 I was shocked to find White Shepherd in there and non too happy. I think that's why I'm having such a hard time filling her pedigree too. Anyone who can fill the holes please help. It's driving me nuts not knowing so much of her bloodline. I plan on breeding her to my older male in the future and I want to make sure I don't get any surprises when I do. I'm worried about Panda Shepherds as the breeder made a strange comment about them. So any help would be nice. And does anyone know how to use AKC or other kennel club registration numbers to find out a dog's name? I found a few using the OFA's site and of course on here but some I never found.

Panda Shepherds or not, could you please share with us exactly WHY you're planning on breeding your female in the future?  Her pedigree is a bag of mixed-nuts, consisting of Czech working lines, West German showlines, American backyard-breeder 'lines'--clearly you did NOT obtain her from a breeder who actively 'tests' their dogs for breedworthiness via the showring or some working endeavor, correct?

That's not to say she's not a perfectly wonderful girl, one you love dearly and who embodies everything you had hoped she'd be--but frankly, you have NO idea what type of puppies she'd produce, because her bloodlines are so mixed there's no way to predict what's behind her.  For all you know, she could be the anomaly of her litter, and the rest could mature into spooky, ill-tempered and poorly-structured specimens.  However much you love her, she is NOT brood bitch material. Period. What's behind her beyond the 5th generation is immaterial--please spend some time on the Rescue forum here, and see how many perfectly lovely dogs that supposedly somebody else once loved dearly are nearing their day to die, because there's simply too many people who have had the same idea as you, and the resulting puppies were sold to people who weren't committed to keeping a dog for its entire life--and I do include breeders who DO test their dogs in the showring and the working fields, too, because there's simply too much breeding for the profit going on.

go to the AKC to the store and then go to pedigrees then go to Online Research Pedigree 

You would need to go to the AKC site and pay for a 5 generation pedigree on the sire of your dog. They don't guarantee it will be a complete pedigree so you would be gambling the $20 or so I think it costs. 
For information purposes it could be fun and interesting information to know, but something that maybe should have been checked before you bought a dog for breeding. There is nothing of breeding value on the sire's side of any significance based on what is shown in the pedigree at this point. 
Enjoy her for what she is and if you are truly interested in breeding, learn about the breed, what should be considered in a breeding situation and find a good mentor to teach you about what you should strive for when producing a litter of pups.

Good luck,
 

BoCeRon, it would appear that she's already got 5 generations on her female, so don't know that it would be even worth the $20 to the AKC, just to get what she's already got, but in a fancier form with a pretty, embossed seal on it.

Doesn't seem to be many 'unknown' spaces in the pedigree
on here, except around Gen.6.  (& even then only about 4 dogs
are missing).

There was a thread recently about what is a BYB....

You took the words right out of my mouth, Hexe. It would be interesting to see the pedigree of the male she intends to use with her. Sigh..........another well meaning dog owner.

She was asking about filling in the blanks. If you look at the sire's side, there are blanks in HIS 5th generation. To do this go to the tab that says "Long Pedigrees" under the dogs' name and click "6 generations" and you will see the blanks on the sire's 5th gen. She could request a 5 gen on him from AKC using the AKC number and fill in any blanks they may have. You don't have to pay for the pretty embossed copy, you can get an online one for less and just use that to fill in the pdb one on her own. 

I was hoping her mother's side would make up for your father rather horrid bloodlines. My male is here: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=625199 He is a perfect mix of show and working lines. I really want to breed him, and Sasha as am trying to get a more solid around GSD that can be for both show and working. I really wanted a solid black female and Sasha was the best I could find without paying an arm and a leg. It's really horrid how expensive some dogs are. People keep complaining about puppy millers and backyard breeders, well if other breeders would keep their prices at reasonable level there would be no one to complain about. It's high prices that force GSD loves to go to unsavory breeders. I have no plans on becoming a miller or backyard breeder. I'm just trying to build a better dog. I'm trying for the straighter back and less heavy body. Hopefully using my male Sam and new female Sasha I can get it. Sam is rather heavy boned, but Sasha is not and I'm hoping she lighter build will be passed on. It'll be a few years though as she is still too young. I plan on waiting till she is two to breed her. Sasha's breeder is very much a backyard breeder and Sasha's mother wasn't even two when the women bred her. The women led me to believe that both parents were from working bloodlines, so I thought I was getting a really female.

Sadly after getting her pedigree and doing some digging I found out the breeder lied. But Sasha is what I want in body and temperament so I can't complain. Her bloodlines may be shifty and I might end up with Panda pups, but I'm rather hopeful that her mother's side will win out her father's. I've noticed that many GSDs take after their mother's lines rather than their father's. Sam's already showing gray on his muzzle so he's won't be around for as long as I'd wish and I really want to have at least one decent pup from him. I have thought of using him as a stud for other breeder's female's but Sam's rather funny about strange dogs and people. Him and Sasha get along great and have no problems with each other. I keep them separated but have allowed them to see each other every day as they are in kennels next to each other. I don't want Sam to breed her at such a young age as he would hurt her. I am responsible, and will have Sam and Sasha fixed. I hope to get at least two litters out of them, but with Sam's age I might just get one litter. After that they will be fixed and stay with me as my companions. I have another female dog named Daisy May who is a spayed GSD/Husky mix that I rescued from the streets and several rescued spayed/neutered cats that will keep them company. None of my dogs are cat haters as they are raised with them. Though Daisy does like to chase them.

I live pretty much in the middle of nowhere with plenty of space for many animals in case anyone's wondering. So my dogs have lots of countryside to explore. I also have a regular vet and all my animals are up to date on shots. So don't even try to make me into someone who's breeding for the money. I might not have much money but my animals will never be without food, vet care, toys and other supplies. I might go without a lot, but they won't. I've seen the results of puppy millers and I would sooner shoot myself then become like them. I still have nightmares from seeing a Chihuahua puppy born missing half it's face do to heavy inbreeding of a puppy miller.  I sometimes work with rescues when I'm not busy so I've seen a lot of what bad breeders can do. If I have to steal a dog to save it from abuse, or death, I will. I work with people wno are really helping animals and even if it means chucking a few laws out the window. I was abused as a child and hate seeing any form of abuse be in people or animals. And many people get away with the abuse as the law does not help the victims by letting the abusers off with a slap on the wrist. My abuser has never been brought to justice and has hurt and scarred several people besides me.