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by patrick on 06 July 2009 - 20:07

I'm not Sue's biggest fan and there are times she infuriates people, but this thread is not about that! totally agree with Paul's post, Sue won MPB, PGB, OB, I didn't see the open bitch class, but I know the female is a top class female, the MPB, was the easy winner, the PGB, didn't put a foot wrong, and is another top class female. We all know judging is subjective and tomorrow is another day and placings will change, but let people have their day. and Sunday was Sue's, If she's allowed to enter her own show, why not! Remember one very important fact, we go there to win. So let's put our hands together for a very successful day for the club and for Sue, Congratulations to you both. regards Bill Owen.  

by shostring on 06 July 2009 - 21:07

to the committee, the judges,  thank you for a fab day,   to sue very well done  I love your mpb and wish you well with her and well done to everyone

Sue Worley

by Sue Worley on 06 July 2009 - 22:07

Well said Paul, and Bill, it was a super day with excellent judging with quality animals.  Are those others now suggesting that Erich Bosl is bent, I hope not, he knows what he likes and also what he doesn't and if that doesn't suit, get out of the fire !! Sue's bitches are top drawer and deserve to win, had they not pleased Herr Bosl they would have been down the line with some others that perhaps hoped to make a higher placing. As for Melanie, ok perhaps some might not have agreed with her placings but she is absolutley straight and her critiques are amazing, (bit like yours Paul :-)) ) I liked them very much, and to suggest that she was influenced by handlers she knew is quite wrong.  The show was very good wth super atmosphere, just such a long drive home :-(( but hey ho see you next week at St Helen's.......... What will happen there then ?????!!!!!!

by pencil on 06 July 2009 - 22:07

I never truely thought until now how THICK you excuses for guardians of the show breed gsd are.
The point I continually make is that FAIR PLAY must be seen to be happening at shows, otherwise there will only be you handful of arrogant back slappers left showing-though that's more than likely what you want.
NOBODY on committes or acting as secretary should enter their own clubs shows-and I fail to understand that you cannot see that-it should not be allowed in the club rules,and if it is the individuals should refrain from entering.

And sadly you fools cannot see that !! It's got nothing to do with the dogs being good enough or the judges favouring( as they all do I'm afraid) it's HOW IT LOOKS TO THE LAYMAN or THE NOVICE SHOW PERSON.


by vana on 06 July 2009 - 23:07

well i thought it   was a super show, i went with friends , cadged a ride as usual, we didnt get a cc but done very well anyway, top draw animals in most classes, and was well worth the effort of getting out of bed at 6am lol, congratulations to all  the   winners and top placings, we wil be at st helens next week    oh! and i am on a commitee and always shown my dogs , didnt win many,   certanly didnt influence a single judge hey ho, but if you cant show at your   own show where would we get committies???

by patrick on 07 July 2009 - 00:07

Pencil you really do talk a crock of shit!!!!!!! I'm sure there are cases of people clubbing together, It's not about back slappers, it's about the best dog winning each class, regardless of who is the owner. I agree club committee members should not show at their club shows, but that's down to club rules, so Sue worked within her club rules, and had a good day, I hope people understand that. Fair play is a very important point, one has to give the benefit of any dought to the exhibitor and believe they enter, and compete on a fair and honest basis . let's not forget it's a dog show, not a matter of life and death. Enjoy, and be happy. Bill Owen.

by paulie on 07 July 2009 - 08:07

Pencil, i can see where you coming from, but lets not forget that it's a hobby that will always draw out the opposing views, i'm quite sure the same crossfire happens in Koi carp societies, Budgerigar clubs, Amateur dramatics, and indeed every form of sport, Football probably being the worst,  ( at least your not waiting in the car park when we arrive asking us if " WE WANT SOME " it's always going to be so,  whilst we still have the privilege of  "free speech," and long may it continue. Over the last year or so we have debated on this board various ways of overcoming our differences, and in my opinion it seemed that you could register your discontent by voting with your feet,  140 odd last week end,  150 odd this week end is a pretty strong statement of how exhibitors see the shows at the moment.
  
  The issue of judge / exhibitor relationships is an old chestnut, indeed i used to wonder at it when i first exhibited dogs, it took me a year or so to realise that there was no collusion between the top handlers, and the judges, it was purely the fact that the top handlers  ALWAYS had the BEST DOGS, i could not have beat them under any judge, unless they were corrupt, ( now theres a conundrum )

   Regards,  Paul Rattigan.


missbeeb

by missbeeb on 07 July 2009 - 09:07


Let's see now, if one disagrees with committee members showing at their own shows (and there is argument for that) isn't there a decent way to put that?  Pencil's post:
 
Well we are still laughing at the GSD SHOW public I see.
As the entries get smaller and the rot sets in BIG TIME, we have the scenario of CLUB SEC. entering and winning CC at her own show.I wonder who helped appoint the judge and looked after them while they were there?

Its dying fast and no one cares as long as " I'm all right Jack ".-so disgusting -and talk about arrogant !
Then you get all the slime coming on here and congratulating them for taking the P*SS.
REST IN PEACE you genuine sheperherd lovers-you have been duped again.

So... it's clear to see that Pencil's objective was to slate and ridicule, with only gossip for ammunition, anyone who disagrees, is apparently "slime" and now we're "THICK" to boot!

Pencil, you are an oxygen thief.



Videx

by Videx on 07 July 2009 - 10:07

Perhaps "pencil" could enlighten us more on his/her own GSD history? 

jaymesie51

by jaymesie51 on 07 July 2009 - 13:07

david i think you will find that someone as bitter as pencil has absolutely no gsd showing history or even breed history at all
jim h





 


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