West Yorks Ch. Show Results - Page 14

well jaymesie 51-i have done as you asked, that is trawled back over you posts and i don't see anywhere where you think its morally wrong and can put people off showing ( so that means your in favour of committe members using their influences with other committe menbers or entering their own shows ) .in fact can't find any reference to the border union show from you and yet aren't you from up there in that part of the uk ? so i thought you might have noticed !

and you had the gaul a little while back to star a thread on the decline of the gsd show scene-now you are either megga thick or an ostrich ( head in the sand ) a back slapper-fence sitter or maybe all of those.

goodnight.

 

Nothing would surprise me about you pencil all you are is a shit stirring b-----d you avoid saying who you are what dogs you have if any at all you are nothing but a sniveling coward READ MY POST DATED JULY 8TH AT 20.07 tell me why you missed what i said or do you have selected eye site like your selected brain what a tube you are pencil and a huge hypocrite you slag off every one for avoiding questions but you are the worst of the lot you have given everyone nothing but abuse because you can hide but one day you will be found out and i do hope you suffer the consequences of your vile actions it is people like you who are wasting our show scene and the sooner you get found out the better for all true gsd lovers.
jim h

Pencil (no lead) tell me what i missed at border union the only person that knows for a fact about the judging at border union or any other show come to that is the judge now i have said before if you are not happy with the judging do not enter under that judge again tell your club committee how you feel ( now people like you say you know who will get the tickets why do you waste your money and enter)  Proving that a judge favoured this dog or that dog would be impossible as they will just say that on the day that was the best so if you think that it was dis honest then dont enter under them again and if committee's are made aware of it from their members then they will not be asked to judge at their show that is the way forward but like all things in life their will always be the little nobodys like you that are rife with jealousy that every judge that does not like your dog will be bent because you are one of lifes losers so racked by your jealousy you cannot see the wood for the tree's i sugest thatyou find another hobby or maybe just stick to playing with your barbie dolls or toy cars and at least that way you cant blame every body else for your short comings (having looked up pencil in the dictionary it states long thin object normally made of wood i would say that describes your brain to a tee) so come on pencil give us your name and your dogs registered names or will you keep doing what you sland every one else for and avoid the question
jim h

jaymesie 51,

thank you sincerly for confirming my points-lets hope you never make the cc's judging list-or perhaps you already have and thats why you don't come out to condemn the practises that are rife in our showing.though you still refused to say what your opinion was on the fact that  the judge and the major winner at border union-are on the SAME committe-you seem to miss the whole point wether or not the judge picked the best dogs and it just happened to be his committe mate, is NOT the point, the POINT is that to everyone else it looks bad ( that is everyone else other than you and your ilk on here ). can't you see that the next time these people judge, normal folk will say pointless entering, and that's why the show scence is in decline.
by the way you can call me all the names you like, but it don't cover up the facts.

Was not at the Show so cannot comment on anything to do with it.  One thing I will say though is 'why are anonymous people allowed to put comments on this site'. Do they have hidden agendas or are they just plain cowards. It should be stopped by the person that runs this site.
Ann R

still hiding pencil cant answer the questions put to you that is the sign of a spinless coward only to happy to dish it out but cant take it well if every one did not know how much of a spinless coward you are they know now and just for you (leadless) i will say again imo you should not show your dogs at your own show if you are on the committee  and in my opinion you should not show your dogs under your brother sister aunt or uncle  now pencil answer my question or will you keep looking for excuses proving time and again what a spinless coward you are.
Annie you are correct in what you say they do infact have hidden agenda's well the ones of pencil's ilk do thet know they can say what they want tell as many lies as they want with no recriminations but one day it will all come tumbling down around their cowardly knee's then the gsd world will see them for what they are jealous little people with a huge yellow streak running right down their backs
jim h

Well Ann the thing is IF you do use your own name and make a comment about some of the issues raised here you get "Sour Grapes" or "green eyed monster" clap trap for most of these people, yet when your at the show all of those people are saying the samething about what goes on but will not comment about it on here.

Lets take a look at Border Union (Yes i was there so i can comment even though i'm an anonymous entity...lol).

The Judge practically lives with the Dog CC/Bitch CC and Res Bitch CC owners, he is on the same committee and trains with them too.

The Res CC dog tried to bite the Judge twice and everyone seen it happen yet the dog was not penalised at all.

Nearly everyone there had heard that these animals where going to get these awards 2 weeks prior to the show hence why the entry was quite low and not many of the other wellknown keenels bother entering (was it because they knew the result prior to the show aswell).

Now how does that situation look to the new people looking to came into the show scene.......imho not very good.

There were also a few people very out spoken about it at the show and comments were made to the judge.

Don't get me wrong as Joan ad Davey Halls bitches were the best 2 females there on the day but is that because a lot of other people didn't bother entering because of the rumours?

Imho there were a few better dogs there than the Dog CC winner and the Res CC winner should'nt have won his class let alone the Reserve CC for what he did in his individual.

So you can see how this makes people feel anger or disillusioned with the show scene at the moment.

What also annoys me on here is the hypocritical nature of those claiming we're all just jealous when the shoe is on the other foot.

Example would be the SKC and because the Judge did his own thing especially in the bitch classes, you should of heeard the comments form some of the back slappers on here about the Judge didn't have a clue what he was doing and there was no thread congratulating Pat McCulloch and here bitch winning the CC.

Watcher, Jim h, Pencil, You can keep going around in circles about what is right or wrong about the judging, and who is in who's pocket. The so called fixed tickets will keep on happening like they have for years, until radical changes are made regarding the responsibility for the selection  of judges. This has been covered on previous posts and not taken up, so maybe, people don't want to change, and are happy the way things are. Until the selection of judges is taken away from club committee members, and remember some committee's have as little as 2-3 members you will always have the possibility of favors happening.  12 Champ shows a year, cleanse the judging list and include a portion of overseas judges. Each show will have a random selection from the cleansed list. if a judge can't make the show, next out of the hat. This will stop all the Bad feeling that evolves on this site after some shows. But as I said, no one seems to see any benefits, so is everyone happy with the existing system! Prove me wrong. Bill Owen.