When to ask for a deposit back.....Im pissed - Page 1

I emailed the breeder today to find out if the puppies were born after I put a deposit down and was told the dog didnt take. Ive been emailing the entire time and at one point was told the dog was really getting big etc etc. Now this...I feel like I was screwed as I find it hard to believe that as of yesterday (I was told that the dog was xrayed yesterday)  the dog wasnt pregnant. I know deposits are usually not refunded but in a case like this what are my options?

Unless s/he has a puppy from the same litter for you, you should have the money back. The breeder should not be keeping money for nothing... the breeder should not have taken money before the litter was born.. I dont get these practices! How can a breeder take money for something non-existent.

This is the FIRST time I have ever done this. I always wait for the pups to be born but I got excited to get a puppy from this certain male so I thought I'd give it a go.

Maybe the dog had a false pregnancy or the breeder had some "wishful thinking" that the dog was pregnant?? What did the breeder say? Did you ask for your money back? I mean, if it was my dog, I'd be assuming I'd be giving people their money back if they had deposits on puppies that didn't exist.......fairly logical conclusion, no? ;-)  Bhaugh, is there a reason you think this was deliberate or do you think the breeder is as surprised as you are? Deposits should be refunded if you can't provide. 

100% refund. Breeder can't keep a deposit for a litter that doesn't exist, IMO.

Bhaugh, I would just contact the breeder and ask for the deposit money. You could be pleasantly surprised and get it all back with an option to try again if the breeding gets repeated later!

I have a better one, a foreign breeder asked me to send a deposit for a breeding in 2013. This person e-mailed me several times insisiting on a 200eu deposit for a litter that wasn't even bred yet. I told this person to pass me by for this one. About two weeks later, the stud dog for this high demand litter was sold to America. Lesson: don't count your puppies before they are born or in this case before they are bred!

When I placed the deposit, I was told the female was bred. I hate to admit it because I got caught up in the moment, but I had doubts of the timing of the breeding because the female had a litter in April. But the breeder provided me all the paperwork and hip/elbow scores everything I asked for and I was put at ease. Im mad because she had to have known the female wasnt pregnant and didnt notify me. I initially asked what other litters she has coming up and Im waiting for a response. But now I think I need to reconsider because I dont want to wait again and nothing comes up.

Deliberate? Hmmm that may not be the word more like maybe she needed the money and I was a sucker to give it to her. Was the dog ever bred? Guess Ill never know.

Barb

You should go ahead and ask now. Good luck and I know there are exceptions, but few breeders taking deposits on unborn litters give the money up willingly.

It's also possible the bitch DID conceive, and WAS showing all signs of pregnancy because she WAS pregnant...and then resorbed the litter for one of a number of reasons out of the breeder's control.  That said, did you have a written contract that stated specifically which breeding the deposit was for?  The breeder may well happily refund your deposit, but there's plenty of breeders who make it a policy that deposits are non-refundable [not saying I agree with the policy, just that it's not an uncommon one]. If you didn't have a written contract, hopefully you at least have email exchanges that make reference to that specific dog and bitch being bred on those specific dates for a litter that was expected to be whelped on or around the projected due date. Without all of those things, you may have difficulty if you need to prove that you were ONLY interested in purchasing a puppy from THAT litter, not from a litter of the same pairing at no specified time period.