Puppy warranty - Page 1

Are ppl jacking up the prices of their dogs because they offer a long/er warranty?
Though you could screen your dogs til your blue in the face, a bad pup could come out, lower odds, but could.
Do you value warranty?
As a consumer, @ 19-25 months when i find out my dog has an issue, i luv my dog im not sending it back, so i dont wanna be charged more cause i could, since i wont.
Over all how do you feel about pup warranties?
I feel DO YOUR RESEARCH, the best you know how @ the time, and deal with what u get (asuming no underhanded practes where followed).
Do you put your child up for adoption cause it has asthma, cancer, cleft lip.............

SHOULD I VALUE.......WARRANTY.....when pup shopping?
as of now i feel like its a marketing scheme targeted towards ppl that dont know any better (tell me im right or with knowledge change my mind)

Me personally.  I do LOTS of research on a breeder before I buy from them.  Mainly what I look for is how many complaints against them, and are they truly breeding with producing what I am looking for.  do they seem to have ethics.  and that is where I put most of the weight.  If they offer a warranty then I feel they are willing to stand behind what they produce.  would I ever try to collect on a warranty?  not every thing can be laid at their door either, sometimes things just happen.  so it would depend on circumstances.  In over 30 years I haven't.

Warranties are only as valuable as the person buying needs them to be.  Yes I do feel as though the purchase prices of puppies does reflect the warranty given.   Sadly, its just like buying anything else.  If you want it fixed or repaired at no extra or little extra cost, the purchase price is going to be higher. However, I can not see how any breeder could expect anyone to give up or give back a puppy/dog that has become a family member to the buyer.   Paying more for the replacement is understandable if a pup of greater quality is chosen as a replacement.     There are so many factors that could affect the value of a warranty.

I think the price is affected more by quality(or percieved quality) and locatation. Most breeders of pure bred dogs in the U.S. offer some type of warranty. And most do it because the other guy does it. Buying and selling, even if it is dogs, still comes down to the basics of economics which is supply and demand.

I believe that warranties for puppies came into vogue in the late sixties and early seventies. That is when pet store franchises popped up all over the country in strip malls and then, the brand new concept, enclosed malls. The prices of puppies in these stores was jacked way, way up to cover brick and mortar overhead costs, employee salaries and benefits. Naturally, the CONSUMERS demanded a WARRANTY in order to justify the HIGH PRICE of a puppy. These puppies were shipped all over the country from puppy mills it flimsy wooden crates held together with wire that, by today's standards, not even produce would be allowed to be shipped in. Sometimes they were sent across country in trucks. I worked at one of these pet store franchises in 1970, and would dread opening the flimsy crates holding four or five puppies crammed in together, the crates sometimes mashed during shipping. It was common to find dead and dying puppies in them. About two months was all I could take of working in that place. So, to cover everyone's loss, from dead and soon dead pups at the pet store, then the consumer loosing a purchased pup soon after getting it home, WARRENTIES were a must. These stores set a trend for a CONTRACT to cover their butts, and a WARRANTY for the consumer, that has carried over to the breeders in this country. This is because of consumer demand for a warranty.

I give a warranty when I have pups. 100% I stand behind my dogs. If you are not willing to stand behind what you produce, I don't think you have any business breeding.
I find it ridicules when a breeder claims Shepherds are "a crap shoot",and one breeder that posts here has the audacity to state, "if you don't want to chance HD, choose another breed", to me, THAT is crap..
I mean really now, other than cutting into your profit, why is it so hard to just replace a dog?
And why should good money have to be thrown after bad, as to return the defective dog,(to be destroyed) in order for a replacement to be sent?
Actually, I. Would not want to give a replacement to a buyer willing to part with their original dog.

@ kitkat. according 2 u its not a crap shoot. with that  being said, if u breed a quality pup, wit health parents then the pup is ok so y offer, seems like a sales gimmik.
how many ave u had returned?
how do u keep from someone buying somtin they shouldnt had had then trying to dump thier issues (untrained, worm infested, mange haveing 17 month old food aggresive unsocialized) problem pup back on u demanding money back, or a new pup to ruin again.


i plan on (if i can get the right animals, and get my knowledge upin the next 2-5 years) givein breeding a shot. my wife is military, and i c dogs all the time that r in small apartments, or on balconies, owned comes home, takes dog to potty, then back in. i have neighbors that you wouldnt even know they had dogs if u didnt hear tem bark throug the walls. if/ when i start breeding, i will be selective or who i even sell to, but if a person like this squeaks throught the cracks, and ruins the pup/dog are you going to take back a 23 month old dog that they destroyed due to human error

kitkat, sorry, but to put it bluntly, you're wrong--any breeder who DOESN'T acknowledge that the breeding of animals is a 'crapshoot' at best is being DISHONEST. It is beyond the reach of any human, living or dead, to have such control over the genetic card shuffling that occurs during the reproductive process as to be able to guarantee the resulting offspring will be 100% healthy and sound, both physically and mentally, and it is sheer arrogance of any breeder who pretends they have such influence. 

It's admirable for a breeder to 'stand behind what they produce' by providing support for their customers, whether it's emotional support or even some financial assistance should a medical condition arise that needs surgical correction, or to offer a customer a replacement, but none of these actions alter the fact that there are things which cannot be controlled by even the very best,  most conscientious breeder or avoided by the most educated buyer.  Genetics happens. 

supakamario, if I recall correctly, you're over in Germany at the moment, seeking your next pup, right?  I'd be surprised if you're encountering much discussion of warranties there, though perhaps breeders there have started doing so because so many American buyers seem to want it. 

Personally, I've got no use for a warranty--I won't pay a ridiculous amount of money for a puppy, no matter how outstanding the breeding looks to be on paper, so it would be unreasonable for me to expect any sort of refund or replacement if the pup develops a problem,  and it's up to me to perform due diligence in researching what I'm buying BEFORE I part with any money. You can research bloodlines until you've arrived back at Horand and Hektor and Pilot for every single dog in the pedigree of the sire and dam, you can run every test, assay and evaluation that exists to determine whether either parent is affected health issues or structural abnormalities, and whether their siblings or grandparents or aunts or uncles or great-grandparents and so on are so affected...but eventually, if you want an immature puppy, you're going to have to take that leap of faith, decide on which breeder and which litter meet your standards and needs, and then make your purchase.

If you want better odds that the dog you'll end up with is going to be physically and mentally sound, you'll need to purchase a mature animal that can itself be assayed for all the bad stuff and given a clean bill of health.  If you want an ABSOLUTE assurance that the dog you'll have will be forever without flaws, faults, failures or foibles, then THIS is the ONLY dog you should be considering for purchase:

Even then, at some point, his stuffing may start to get saggy.

Buying a pup, moreso for anything other than a pet, then I do have to say that yes, it's a bit of a crap shoot. I have lost count of the super star/can't miss puppies I have seen. Somewhere along the line maybe a tooth is missing, a bad elbow or hips, or any one of many issues that can crop up and blind side the breeder and buyer. I would say the same about breeding, you go and pay a $1000 stud fee, well guess what, the dice were just rolled.    

jmo,
Rik

Dogs are a crapshoot, no matter the breed.  Researching pedigrees can help but there is ALWAYS an outside chance something goes wrong - as the saying goes shit happenes.  Even when buying a dog who has prelimed you can end up with a dog who will not OFA, trust me I have.  Several others I know have bought/imported dogs who have "good hips" only to redo xrays once the dog arrives to find out they got screwed.

Now I do offer a warranty on my puppies and I will replace them if something goes wrong but I do not insist the original puppy be returned.   I would take it back if they insisted but it is not a requirement.