Possibility of Mating - Page 1

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Abbey was wonderfully given to us through a friend that bred her and needed a home to take her in.  She just turned 6, but she has no titles and still is not spaded.  Her linage is amazing, and so I'm torn as to try and breed her with a quality line, or to just give up on the possibility of breeding and have her spade.  I just would want to ensure another quality line, so I don't know how strict the studs are with untitled bitches.

This is my first post, so I'm curious as to what people will think.

Thanks,

Furmanski

Her lineage is good, but it hardly qualifies as 'amazing', my friend.  Take a stroll through the classifieds just on this site alone, and you'll see her lineage is quite typical of the West German showlines overall, and of the dogs born in the mid-2000's in particular.  She's not titled in any capacity; has she had her hips and elbows certified as being clear of dysplasia and abnormalities, either by OFA/OVC/BVC/SV/PennHip?  At the barest MINIMUM, she should not be bred without having hips and elbows cleared...but to be honest, while I'm sure she's a perfectly LOVELY dog who you adore, that and her lineage don't make her integral to the progression of the German Shepherd Dog as a breed. 

Better to spay her, so she avoids developing a uterine infection that could quite truthfully be the death of her if it's of the undraining type [called a closed pyometra] or is draining [an open pyometra] but not discovered by you until she's already become systemically septic from the overwhelming infection circulating in her bloodstream.  Spay her, and love her and enjoy her company for many years to come. It is not my intent to try to insult you, nor to demean your dog, but I won't lie to you, either...not when there are thousands of perfectly lovely, well-bred GSDS with good lineage behind them being killed each and every day in shelters because the rescue efforts simply cannot save them all.  Please read through the following threads on here to better understand what I'm saying, and why:
 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=663957

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=660437

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=661597

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=660760

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=657811

 Hexe.

Hexe, I totaly agree with you on spaying her because, its like, from your research about her lineage she may not have any extra good to improve the gsd. However, i disagree, if you suggest "spaying" because of "rescued" or "sheltered" dogs. (1) what if somebody wants a not-so-amazing-pedigreed dog just for pet? (2) does someone's ignorance or negligence means another can not keep a low-quality dog? (2) what if the dog is breed for people who'd need such untitle dogs? Now, the whole things bothers on choice, time for doggy-sports etc and, of course, money to get high quality dog. I just think that if the united states is serious about "rescued or sheltered" dog syndrome, they should enact legislation to control and regulate dog ownership like in certain towns/cities in germany, one is not allowed to own more than one or two dogs at a time, and which breeding is restricted, controlled and regulated by authorities. Sometimes i watch in "animals planet's" "recue zone" how individuals in the US own more dogs than any piece of property: on woman owns 16 cats. Some cannot even take care of one dog but a own half a dozen. How does this affect other who love and want to keep their pets? I think it to be a matter of legislation. Indiferent dogs are shipped to less developed countries everyday: i saw crippled dogs sent or brought in from russia, south africa etc every now and then, yet some persons think they're helping the breeds. Until "indifferent" and "substandard" dogs are culled by breeders, expect messier dogs!

Thanks everyone.  I'm new to the whole process, but appreciate the advice.  I certainly wouldn't breed her without getting x-rays, so no worries there.  I was just looking for some opinions, and this helps out a lot.

Furmanski:

                 Do you train? are you involved with Schutzhund? Do you need a pup to work or have homes already in line to send the pups to? Or is it just $$$$ ?. Do you have the experience to pick a stud to complement the breeding? If no to these or any of these spay her and give her a wonderful forever home.  

if you are not breeding to improve the breed and that  also means getting titled and hip cert  with no heath problems ,you should not be breeding. there are too many breeders in it for the money. makes me sick-

Because established breeders are such altruists that they don't make a dime on their breedings.

Quantum threw alot of bad hips.

looking at the pedigree, i can tell you that this breeder i know and i also know a bit about her brothers. one of her brother got OFA good hips and the other got OFA excellent and from doing my research on Quantum , he did produce both good and bad hips. he did have a few other health issues, but when breeding its a gamble. its best to do research on the lines you want to use.