Borderline hips - Page 1

Hi everyone, is anyone familiar with or have gotten a borderline ofa report on the hips, 
and if so, did you have them redone after waiting six months.
       Thanks!

Borderline: there is no clear cut consensus between the radiologists to place the hip into a given category of normal or dysplastic. There is usually more incongruency present than what occurs in the minor amount found in a fair but there are no arthritic changes present that definitively diagnose the hip joint being dysplastic. There also may be a bony projection present on any of the areas of the hip anatomy illustrated above that can not accurately be assessed as being an abnormal arthritic change or as a normal anatomic variant for that individual dog. To increase the accuracy of a correct diagnosis, it is recommended to repeat the radiographs at a later date (usually 6 months). This allows the radiologist to compare the initial film with the most recent film over a given time period and assess for progressive arthritic changes that would be expected if the dog was truly dysplastic. Most dogs with this grade (over 50%) show no change in hip conformation over time and receive a normal hip rating; usually a fair hip phenotype.

If I was planning to breed I might re-do it but if I was keeping the dog for sports or whatever I'd take it and work the dog.

Agree, if kept for breeding purposes and the lineage was impeccible I would re-do them, and were these done with or without sedation?  Whatever the case was with or without sedation I would do the opposite next x-ray as there could very possibly be a difference.  And even fair to some are OK to breed, however, the dog has to be good to excellent leaning more toward excellence in every other way to breed fair hips.

Also agree that if the dog was kept for sport, I would not re-do unless down the line you MIGHT want to breed him/her then I would redo them now.  I would not wait until say 6 years old and think you want to breed him/her then want to redo the hips then as you will probably at that time NOT pass. 

Whatever you do, good luck  Nan

Mirasmom---I hope this link works and helps.  You might have to cut and paste it...if not go to woodhavenlabs.com and do a search


http://woodhavenlabs.com/documents/Variation_in_OFA.pdf



Cathy

Mirasmom;  you have to scroll way down to see results of borderline/mild and changes in x-rays of dogs that were sedated and awake when given the x-rays.  Quite a few did have better results.  good luck  Nan

Saxtonhill;  thanks for sharing that info, very informative.

I got a borderline OFA on a female. Resubmitted a year later and got a fair. Mine didn't show any changes either, but seemed to have a bit more subluxation than they thought it should on the First submission. I honestly thought I would get a dysplastic when re-done so was pretty happy with her fair. Have only bred her to OFA Good hip male.
Best of luck.
Weezy.

Thanks everyone!
The link explaining the different out comes while awake or sedated was interesting, Thanks Saxtonhill!
And weezy, you give me hope.
I want him to get a passing grade as he will be my first dog that I am planning to title with an IPO, he has nice spunk to him, he also got a first place in SV conformation with competition, which was nice cause he is a long stock coat, I have big plans for him, he also has a full sister that got ofa good and his half brother got ofa good, sooo,we are going back in April.
     He was awake when we x-rayed him.
   I don't like putting my dogs under anymore for the mere fact that they possibly may not wake up, not that it happens that often, but I would rather be safe than sorry.
  Time to get him in perfect shape for his next x-ray,
bike work, keep him lean & vitamin C!
              

I must add one more thing, it is bugging me.
When I went to get my dogs hips x-rayed the vet was there but had his assistants do the x-ray which surprised me but he looked at the x-ray and said, yup, they are good.....
All my other dogs I have brought to him previously have got passing grades, I think I will request that he take the x-rays this time for me, as I have more confidence in him.